first selvege jeans

[cheapmuthafukr]

so i found some selevge levis yesterday at ross. 5$. the thing is i have no idea what they are. there is no tag on the outside, pretty strange washing instructions("if you use chlorine bleach you are an idiot"), and 524on the top button. 2 tone gold and pale yellow stiching, full selvege outseam and inside coin pocket, v-stich at top button. the fit is strange too... completly straight all the way down, wich makes it slim in the thigs but pretty wide at the bottom. they say made in usa on the tag. 4 button fly, and red tab with just the R. any help(paul t, etc...) is appriciated.

inside tag :

top button:

coin pocket

outseam

banana yellow back pocket stiching

Edited by cheapmuthafukr on Feb 4, 2006 at 10:23 AM

Edited by cheapmuthafukr on Feb 4, 2006 at 10:24 AM

[damnIam]

gotta have a pic, man.

[rnrswitch]

yeah, gonna need some pics. Hell, for 5 bones i'm guessing you got a good deal.

[WhoGotMeIntoThis]

I wanna see these BAD. Please throw down a pic.

[gomi no sensei]

these sound kind of like those fake levis there was a thread about, with the selvage coin pocket and selvage back beltloop. Though hell, for $5 even fake selvage levis are a deal.

[nairb49]

selvage coin pocket isn't necessarily fake.

if its selvage on the INSIDE of the coin pocket, thats a good sign.

selvage on the outside is a bit more suspect though.

i'm no expert, but i've never seen selvage back beltloop.

nairb49

[Paul T]

Don't know without a photo! Selvage on the inside of the coin pocket is OK, but I don't know of jeans that had that in the early 70s, which is when i think the 'r' tab, without the levi's, appeared. Please post pix!

[houston]

nice find..I love the mysterious shit you can come up with at Ross, Marshallas, and TJ Maxx

I beginning to question your commitment to Sparkle Motion

http://www.4duos.com

[rnrswitch]

Definitely not fake if ross is selling them. They kinda look like 47 repros. The selvedge looks clean and the back arcuate looks like the 47 arcuate with the yellow stitching. Great find dude. Were there any others. Cuz if there was run down there, buy them, and sell them on ebay. Are those a size 28 or 26?

Edited by rnrswitch on Feb 5, 2006 at 12:42 PM

[Seething Tortoise]

If they're $5, I'd say it's quite a deal. Fake or not, it's only $5.

[Paul T]

They look really nice and a bargain for $5. I would buy them if they were a good fit.

I do have my doubts, though - single stitch hems and coin pocket selvage are typical of pre-1920s repro; but the V stitch and back pocket stitching is more like 50s jeans. But if I bought them, I would tell myself that, rather than a fake, they were likely to be a production error by LVC and thus a rare one-off.... it has happened before...

[Serge d Nimes]

It looks like fuzzy selvage, are they? they may be wide loom selvage.

Carpe Denim! (not the jean brand silly!)

[cheapmuthafukr]

no... not fuzzy selvege. they are marked irregular tho. they say 26, but i measured the waist at 29, so they work for me. i think one wash too since they are dark, almost black, but soft and kinda fuzzy.

denim is the new crack

[jens]

I've seen some of the Levi's RED jeans who also have the the red "levi's" tag at the back pocket only stating the registered trademark R on it. So they could be from the European Levi's RED line (the color of the backpocketstitching being contrasting yellow strengthened this too), brilliant wash instructions btw!

The pictures look quite okay, I'd say you got a VERY GOOD deal, in like I'm very jealous now... The selvage does not look fluffy (in the care label picture) and the selvage in the inside of the coin pocket which has been hemmed with a chainstitch (not the cheap-ass-easy-way-of-making-jeans-look-very-selvage-thus-cool-ripp-of style that fake jeans can have) the bottom hems however are done with a normal 401 stitch. Nevertheless a good pair of jeans.

Enjoy your purchase man!

Edited by jens on Feb 6, 2006 at 11:17 AM

[Serge d Nimes]

They may be "lot 54" jeans, which were Levi's first premium jean.

Carpe Denim! (not the jean brand silly!)

[pacioli]

Anyway of picking up more? I'll pay a decent premium for your trouble.

I'm 32 waist and 30 length...but any length above that is ok.

pacioli at gmail.com

[cheapmuthafukr]

that was the only pair... if there were more i would have bout them up for the superfuture crowd

denim is the new crack

[Geowu]

maybe they were hemmed, that would explain the normal stitching.

[pacioli]

cheapmuthafukr -- thanks!

[mcflip]

I thought I had a find when I came across a decent (albiet lightly stonewashed) pair of Luckys at Marshalls. Apparently you can occasionally come across PDCs there also.

I'm jealous