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yeah. fuck knowledge and culture outside $$$$$.

Even though what roundhouse wrote was pretty tongue-in-cheek, I don't think that's the point either way: it was more "don't pursue art & culture as a secure career path" rather than "fuck knowledge and culture outside $$$"

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one out of a hundred will follow this advice and do something worthwhile. the other 99 will jerk off and play xbox all day, because that too will make them happy.

  • 8 months later...
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Doing Bachelor of Political, Economic and Social Sciences at University of Sydney, starting in March 2015

Just got done enrolling, major in political economy, optional major in film studies (For now) 

Already picked up some reading, and managed to lose my copy of the Wealth of Nations in one day

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anyone who's going into first year or is in first year have as much fun as possible, it's easy as fuck and doesn't matter that much

 

knuckle down in the second year

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if something in the liberal arts captivates you enough that you're willing to make some sacrifices, i don't see why it's disagreeable. most liberal arts students i know, including myself (one of my degrees will be a BA), just sort of want to do their own thing and pursue their own interests as much as possible in life. this may be aristocratic, but why should that matter? just don't have a family and don't be involved romantically with someone who demands a lifestyle outside of your means post graduation. maybe this is an easier thought for me to accept than others, though. 

 

I think you are missing the point. There is absolutely nothing wrong with living your life the way you mentioned. The problem is that in the US, getting said BA can cost up to 200K, which will end up handicapping you financially for life while not providing you with any marketable skill. Unless you attend a very well regarded college, I don't think paying more than 2-3K a year for liberal art studies is a smart financial option.

 

I know quite a few people who attended very prestigious colleges, but are head deep in student debt while struggling to built a career because they choose a useless major (english, woman studies, etc) while some of their classmates who made better choices are building very fulfilling careers (and in many cases making bank). 

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Re: Discussion on useful/not useful majors and stuff

This spring ill be finishing my BA in Math (minor in stats/music), which sounds weird, but BA vs BS was that I have way more freedom to take classes i'm interested in (i've taken english/sociology/music for multiple semesters), plus BS is essentially prep for grad school, which I probably wouldn't go to for math. Granted math is still interesting to me and I enjoy it, there are definitely a lot options and easy ways to get more marketable skills but kids aren't often pushed in those directions because college is such a huge industry at this point and getting tuition money matters more than leaving kids in debt to the institution. But the huge change is that a bachelors is not the way to a decent job the way it was for many baby boomers, yet it still is marketed as such. 

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Ideally Universities' role is not only to set you up for a career, but also to create citizens. However, if you are pragmatic you will not pay tens of thousands of dollars to study something that isn't going to get you your money back. Unless you're from a rich family.

 

I think that as a society we need to move towards msking university attendance as accessible as possible and making the degree that graduates leave with as useful as possible.

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nvm lol  

 

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I originally wanted to try for a masters in Architecture after I finished my BS in Arch. Engineering, but now that I'm getting some work experience in the field I might just stick with structural engineering. I like the work enough (I'll probably like it more once I get out of the basic stuff and into advanced structural design), but the 8-6 life doesn't leave much time for my creative pursuits.

 

Some days I get really into my own projects, be it writing or design or whatever, and get a small panicking feeling that this is what I really want to do and I'm not in the right major and I'm going to be unfulfilled etc, but I think most of these creative projects I have going are just things I need to do once to get out of my system, not things to build a career out of.

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About to graduate in March with a BA in Business Economics. No clue what I'm gonna do after that except hopefully work a relevant job. My resume is pretty shitty too so gg I guess.

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About to graduate in March with a BA in Business Economics. No clue what I'm gonna do after that except hopefully work a relevant job. My resume is pretty shitty too so gg I guess.

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Ideally Universities' role is not only to set you up for a career, but also to create citizens. However, if you are pragmatic you will not pay tens of thousands of dollars to study something that isn't going to get you your money back. Unless you're from a rich family.

 

I think that as a society we need to move towards msking university attendance as accessible as possible and making the degree that graduates leave with as useful as possible.

 

and then... politicians.

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