When do dry jeans reach perfection for you?

[dragonness]

I'm new to this universe, and hugely intrigued. I was wondering when dry denim reaches that state you strive for - before the first wash, after numerous washes, what?

Thanks!

[theetruscan]

I'm new to this universe, and hugely intrigued. I was wondering when dry denim reaches that state you strive for - before the first wash, after numerous washes, what?

Thanks!

When every time you put them on, they feel like they were made for you.

Edit: Seriously, the wear and appearance and all that are a process, you're not trying to get them to reach some perfect snapshot, you're wearing jeans because they're jeans. If you're lucky, and don't over/underwash them, or crash your bike/skateboard/jetpack too hard, they'll eventually look perfectly worn.

[sidneylo]

Wabi... Sabi

[mr fluffernutter]

Nothing .. is ever... perfect...

[cheep]

wow... i just wear em till they fall apart. if you strive for perfection, youll always be disappointed.

[plane trip to mars]

they were supposed to be perfect?

[ChaseDizzy]

I think he means perfection in your own mind, the higest point that you enjoy your denim being at.

For me, I love when the vertical falling is superduper defined. The stacking fades show, and some well defined whiskers and combs.

I can't stand the 2-3 month period though.

[blm14]

Before even the first soak, when they are still a blank canvas and haven't lost any potential. I feel like by the time they get a lot of wear they've settled from the excited state where you can measure neither position nor velocity to the point where your observation has effected both and fixed them both at the moment of measurement.

[dragonness]

I certainly got the sense that some form of perfection was the name of the game here. I understand by now that the whole thing about dry denim is the process, but my question was I guess which point in the process do you look forward to in particular.

I guess theetruscan's answer of reaching the point where they feel like they're made for you makes the most sense. I'm not yet familiar with that feeling, so I can only surmise how good that must be.

[beatle]

Never..ever

[TheJonesBoy]

I loved the Lee 101z's I am 3 1/2 months into with just one no-soap very short rinse for the first 2 weeks. Crispy, raw and stiff yet wearable. Now they feel grubby, far too soft and saggy. I'll keep on keeping on until I see enough indigo moved about before washing but I miss their crispness.

Got some Uniqlo's on the go but they just feel heavy and a bit trashed by their (Uniqlo's) one wash. Nudie Dry Japan to get on with and some more Lee 101's.

Need to get some 501's in to get busy with too - crispy raw lovliness!

[GiZMO]

Before even the first soak, when they are still a blank canvas and haven't lost any potential. I feel like by the time they get a lot of wear they've settled from the excited state where you can measure neither position nor velocity to the point where your observation has effected both and fixed them both at the moment of measurement.

Denim is a science.

[Tarmac]

I love my Citizens of Humanity but true perfection is found in my $229 sandblasted Rock And Republic bootcut with patch pockets.

[AdamJaz]

I love my Citizens of Humanity but true perfection is found in my $229 sandblasted Rock And Republic bootcut with patch pockets.

[F A Y B A N]

I like them stiff as cardboard. No washing, no soaking, no movement. I actually hate wearing worn in jeans, they have no, i dont know the word. They just fall straight down, I don't like it when jeans have no weight, thickness to them.

Basically I like them on the first day. The rest is downhill.

[7887]

I hate how my jeans would drape after the starch is gone, I know is inevitable, so that means i like my jeans when they still have a little starch in them, that way they feel more structured.

Anyways, the pefect status is achieved when your jeans reach level 99, they have a discussion on this thread.

[scoon0224]

I'm with Fayban a bit... though day one they feel a little awkward. But by the time they've lost all the stiffness they've really become yours... with all the fading, scratches, and stains that come with it.

From beautiful but bland, homogenous... to broken and beaten with a story to tell.

From my experience, my jeans have reached perfection in the short time just before they're about to be retired. Same with leather jackets (though I'm not a leather jacket guy... my dad is)

[sam113]

For me-

After at least a year of constant wear before the first wash. When the denim is fully calandared and looks greasy-wet with deep hige and atari and when you take them off and hold them up they appear to still have legs in them.

[rome1]

probably my fav time is the 6mo. area when the jeans are that nice blue color from being washed once or twice, not too light not too dark.

[Sais]

if you strive for perfection, youll always be disappointed.

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[wEstSidE]

when they get a man stain.

[MC PEEPANTS]

def. the first wear. stiff as shit, so crisp. it feels so good i think. after that they just gradually loose there shine

[Servo2000]

def. the first wear. stiff as shit, so crisp. it feels so good i think. after that they just gradually loose there shine

You're literally the opposite of, I believe, approximately every other person on this entire forum.

[wEstSidE]

You're literally the opposite of, I believe, approximately every other person on this entire forum.

he keeps it xxtra krispy lyk a two pc out of popeye

[kiya]

This is a great thread..

When they're at the six month mark and i don't even have to think about them any more. They've become a part of me and my daily life, and they visually reflect it.

[masuerte]

You're literally the opposite of, I believe, approximately every other person on this entire forum.

Sadly I've grown to love how crispy the dry denim are. I have been wearing 90% of my jeans w/o washing to keep them so crisp. To this day they're all still crisp, the oldest hitting the 12 month mark about now and they're only just getting a tad hairy (I'm growing to love this as well).

[Servo2000]

I was referring simply to the fact that he apparently likes them less the more he wears them. I think most everyone also likes them when they're good and crispy.

[wEstSidE]

if you starch cant u keep em krispy??

i like sanforized denims when they're new...they have that awesome sheen...so krispy.

i like slubby denim when it gets old.

i like lht jeans when they're worn in.

[plongin]

maybe not at any specific moment of the process, but i like it when I feel that i can do anything in my jeans, as if theyre indestructible.

[dragonness]

Well, I must say, the mystery deepens. Instead of a single answer, I get extremes and everything in between.

Btw, wEstSidE, is a man stain a man-shaped stain, like Jesus on the Shroud of Turin, or is it something rather less sacral?

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