someone here who has a pair of kohzo denim?

[misterdobalina]

these guys seem to know what they're doing...

just wanted to know if someone owns a pair to tell the world how they are.

http://www.kohzo.ch

[poly800rock]

those kevlar ones look awesome

[Geowu]

WOW...

never heard of it before... but for what I read on the site, those fabrics they use are amazing!

Kevlar, Silk, Sasawashi, Paper! not to mention Zimbabwe ORGANIC cotton and vegetable dyes.

don't know about the fit and the design tho.

[misterdobalina]

i heard they use vintage cuts...

the women's line supposed to be vintage cuts too and not very successful - no woman wants a jean with a 10" rise nowadays.

but whats not good for women is best for men

plus rumours say they easily hit $350+

[darknworn]

those seem beautiful jeans, especially the natural indigo denim. lots of exotic ingredients i didn't know can be woven into denim fabric, i.e. kevlar, bamboo...WOW!!! any of you new yorkers willing to stop by their local retailer and have a look? i would be very surprised if you can find them at less than $300.

[Geowu]

few women care about quality to the point of paying $300+

so I guess it would be a failure anyway on the womens collection

[wild_whiskey]

They look like they're pretty low rise from the pictures, but it could just be really long inseams giving it that effect. Anyway, I agree that they look really sick.

And Geowu, I know. That's the problem with women (as if its the only one..) My lady friend has some PDCs, and I was like "nice denim," and then tried to explain what ring-ring is. Anyway, yea. I had to shut up real quick. By the time I'm done with her, she'll be wearin Nomad Tribe or some other approvable (by me) and exclusive brand, and she'll know why they're good!

[darknworn]

the easiest way to get a chick to wear the good stuff is to tell her the selvage denim's tonality makes her butt looks much more defined (inteprete: butt becomes booty) by reflecting the lights in favorable ways.

[skecr8r]

I'll pick up a pair when I go to berlin 27-29th. I'll write an review for The Arc (Guess what it is) but I'll let people see it if they're interested as well.

Denim Fanatismé.

The Arc - Hitting the selvage from August 1st 2005.

frogeyes: "dontcare, who cares."

[misterdobalina]

they must cost a fortune in euros bro.

weak ass dollar. thats instantly 40% more.

but that kevlar thing is so slick. mmmmmh. i'm feeling a movement in my jeans. it's in the upper area.

[darknworn]

Quote:

they must cost a fortune in euros bro.

weak ass dollar. thats instantly 40% more.

but that kevlar thing is so slick. mmmmmh. i'm feeling a movement in my jeans. it's in the upper area.

--- Original message by misterdobalina on May 11, 2005 04:13 PM

haha...you're hot for kevlar???

[Serge d Nimes]

I wonder if those Kevlar jeans are bullet proof, or maybe sound like B&W speakers when you walk

Carpe Denim!

[teejayess]

Straight out of Frauenfeld.

[Fuuma]

Those natural indigo jeans look pretty sweet. Too bad there aren't more pictures and details about the cuts on the website (or did I miss something?).

[misterdobalina]

a german cat who spotted the kevlars somewhere just told me they set you back 340 euros

[juxtaposed]

345 euros to be correct. all mixed yarns (high tech yarns) are not selvage. all cost around 345.

just the pure cotton line is selvage (325 euro).

but cuts are NOT good (most are bell bottoms and too high) kind of gay cuts..i couldnt fit into a 32 (my size) really tight. also no love for details (only the suede patch is ok, but logo looks cheap). and the selvage denim is kind of low quality when feeling and touching it. i guess its some 9oz stuff. also most have fly zippers, which i think is wack and looks cheap.

but good is they have this sasawashi material which makes nice effects and marks on the denim. looks interesting. the kevlar was nothing special tho.look and feel were normal. just like any other plain jeans. theres 7% kev mixed in.

i guess the other mixed yarns are similar.

so in my eyes not worth buying and a little disappointing i must admit, since i expected more.

also regarding the selvage line : for that price i can get 3 better pairs of other reputable selvage brands.

[ringring]

I'd go along with some of that, they are a bit underwhelming in the flesh. I'd particularly agree that the Sasawashi's are the most interesting.

Edited by ringring on Jun 5, 2005 at 01:34 AM

[Geowu]

From the site, although it is hard to say, I got the impression too that the cuts and styles were not that good. Maybe some other company can buy their high-tech fabrics and make stylish jeans... like Dior Homme, Helmut Land, Jil Sander, APC.

Edited by Geowu on Jun 4, 2005 at 08:45 PM

[Circa]

Those jeans are not made entirely of kevlar. The most likely part of the jean that uses kevlar fibre would only be the thread and not the actual denim itself. AFAIK, kevlar cannot be made into anything that resembles in both appearance and texture either denim or cloth. It's just doesn't seem possible, for one the jeans would be heavy as shit, hot as hell (kevlar is not breathable) and extremely expensive to produce. Kevlar resembles nylon in both texture and appearance but is heavier and usually has a more 'plasticy' feel to it (for lack of a better word). Using Kevlar thread for clothing however is more common.

Edited by Circa on Jun 4, 2005 at 07:34 PM

[juxtaposed]

thats what i said, only 7% of the jeans are made of kevlar

[skecr8r]

Even though my trip is postponed to 23rd to 26th I will still pick up a pair. Fuck the cost, it is denim man. No limits.

MAD YOUNG MAN

[Circa]

Quote:

thats what i said, only 7% of the jeans are made of kevlar

--- Original message by juxtaposed on Jun 6, 2005 03:13 AM

Then it's just the thread used to stitch the seams etc.

[ringring]

The kevlar is probably a percentage of the woven fabric, rather than just the stitching IMO

Kevlar denim exists already. See these links:

http://www.texland.co.kr/whatsnew.asp

http://www.duluthtrading.com/items/85352+DNM+MED.asp

http://www.dickies-europe.com/index.php?act=2,1,63,,,,

AFAIK, Dunderdon also made kevlar denim pants in 2000 called the P-Zero.

[Circa]

Hmmm... That's surprising actually. Most of what I know about kevlar is about its use in the tactical/protective gear area. The majority of the products I've seen which utilized kevlar -excluding ballistic vests- claimed a percentage of kevlar similar to the ones shown in the above sites but in almost all cases the only portion of the material in which kevlar was evident were the threads used in the seams. But I guess they may have made some advances in the use of kevlar since last I checked. From what I know, kevlar is a very heavy coarse material, and generally it cannot be woven into as tight or thin a fabric as say nomex or cordura. The benefits of kevlar however are multi-fold, it's abrasion resistance is extremely high and it is very heat resisitant, in fact moreso than nomex.

[ringring]

I know what you mean about tactical/protective gear, I'm sure that remains DuPont's major market for Kevlar.

I'm pretty sure Kevlar's been used for other fabrics other than denim. eg. Schoeller's wool and microfibre mixes.

[poly800rock]

I got a pair of the sasawashi jeans last week on Yoox's 50% off sale, orginal tag says 349 Euro, but ended up paying only around $67! Anyhow, these are super nice, soft (eek!!) nice blend of 60% cotton and 40% sasawashi. Denim is very very nice, and very streaky. Leather patch is like suede. Great deal in my opinion. check the pics as I have never seen these in the flesh/detailed before I bought them. Non selvedge btw

http://www.kohzo.ch/sasawashi.html

[poly800rock]

[poly800rock]

[high_contrast]

nice pickup! shit, i remember this thread from last year.

[__3xL]

Link to yoox sasawashi's please poly800 ?