Bicyclettes

[Guest mwills]

This probably sounds stupid but I gotta ask you opinion.

I'm looking to get my first fixie. I'm going to be riding it around town to work and stuff, and for fun too. Nothing too serious. Alot of people recommend the Kilo TT over something like the Winsor The Hour because the TT has tighter more track like geometry. I am just wondering if it's possible to do barspins on a Kilo TT because the front weel clearance is so tight. The skids and tricks seem like alot of fun and something I'd be interested in along with using the bike for transportation, so which frame would you recommend. I'm looking for a pretty cheap beginner bike I can learn on and upgrade as I go, eg. Kilo TT, The Hour, or maybe a Pista or IRO if the price jump is worth it. Thanks for the help.

[kenthenoob]

you can if you get a 650 wheel.

[so-so]

Honestly, unless you have bmx background or something, by the time you get around to doing barspin tricks worth doing, you're going to want a new bike anyways.

That said I highly doubt the TT does barspins, but not sure.

[Guest mwills]

Honestly, unless you have bmx background or something, by the time you get around to doing barspin tricks worth doing, you're going to want a new bike anyways.

That said I highly doubt the TT does barspins, but not sure.

Yea thats why I said it probably sounds stupid...but I'd just like to have that room to learn. How about just for tricks in general is a tighter more track like frame better/worse? I'm not going to be doing any competitive racing just for transportation and recreation kinda thing.

[offmybiscuits]

im a noobie like him^^

help us out dawgs

the hour?

or kilo TT

[phoenix]

^^

the kilo tt has a better looking fork and no water bottle braze-ons...if those things matter to you

other than that i'm pretty sure they're identical

I've got a green kilo waiting on me at home. I return from school tomorrow so I'm pretty excited. The Hour also comes in smaller sizes if you're shorter. Its up to you, which color you like and which bike you want.

[knucks]

I would get The Hour. Toe overlap sucks on the Kilo, especially if you just want to commute on it.

[dokydoky]

I would get The Hour. Toe overlap sucks on the Kilo, especially if you just want to commute on it.

For the record there is no toe overlap on a 60cm Kilo TT. Other sizes may not be so lucky however.

[zelah]

haha there's kind of a serious amount on the 50cm though

[migz23]

bought a swobo sanchez, keep or not to keep. i think imight be able to exchange it for a bianchi pista

[Guest mwills]

Think I might go with The Hour then...

now my inseam is around 32.5 soooo 52cm or 54cm? 52cm has 30.4" standover and 54cm has 31"

oh and as far as exchanging a swobo for a Pista I'm pretty sure everyone is going to tell you do it. I'm a noob...so take it for what it's worth.

[papa smurf]

bought a swobo sanchez, keep or not to keep. i think imight be able to exchange it for a bianchi pista

naw, the swobo has the galvanized steel finish which makes it last a really long time, other than that they're pretty much the exact same bike.

[knucks]

Think I might go with The Hour then...

now my inseam is around 32.5 soooo 52cm or 54cm? 52cm has 30.4" standover and 54cm has 31"

oh and as far as exchanging a swobo for a Pista I'm pretty sure everyone is going to tell you do it. I'm a noob...so take it for what it's worth.

inseam doesn't mean shit, you're riding the bike not standing over it. that being said, i like being able to have my bike between the legs w/o it hurting my nuts.

you need to look at other measurements and see if you can ride some kind of a bike and see how it fits, get its geometry and compare to the hour

[knucks]

Bid away my children:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170179707930&_trksid=p3907.m32&_trkparms=tab%3DSelling

[fix.]

ahaha, I'm seeing your posts for that frame everywhere I turn.

[knucks]

ahaha, I'm seeing your posts for that frame everywhere I turn.

i'm trying to sell it any way i can

[Guest mwills]

I know I'm a scrub...but I'm pretty sure inseam has everything to do with bike size. The lenght of your legs = the distance from the seat to the pedals. AND as you said having nut room means that your inseam is a couple inches longer than the standover height. I've done my research

[dokydoky]

I know I'm a scrub...but I'm pretty sure inseam has everything to do with bike size. The lenght of your legs = the distance from the seat to the pedals. AND as you said having nut room means that your inseam is a couple inches longer than the standover height. I've done my research

Inseam is good for determining what bikes are too big for you, that's about it. Once you've got that out of the way, top tube length is generally more important than seat tube length.

[knucks]

Inseam is good for determining what bikes are too big for you, that's about it. Once you've got that out of the way, top tube length is generally more important than seat tube length.

Word. You don't want a top tube that doesn't "fit." You'll be playing with stem sizes and that's not fun, trust me.

[wild style]

You should probably add something about the seat tube water bottle braze ons in your description.

Just sayin'

[Icicle Cubicle]

hand delivered from the motherland:

kalavinka x saglife

how it looks worn (not me pictured)

all-white rubinos

selle italia turbo

gr-9s w/cateyes and fit a's

nitto race

[sycamore no more]

^^ I have that same stem in a 55, it's so awesome.

[hamburglar]

that stem is meant to be interchangable with others like it but only the one model was made. its a shame it never took off. kinda like the miche 2 piece cog idea.

[kenthenoob]

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH all that white... so clean... are you going to post a pic of your ride after the installations?

can you only get white rubinos from jp??

i don't remember seeing any at the stores around here.

[david3558]

My ride.

[Icicle Cubicle]

^^ I have that same stem in a 55, it's so awesome.

word, theyre the eyeball sex for sure...but it'll be even more so after i give it a once over:

bring bring!

[hamburglar]

ken. http://johnprolly.blogspot.com/2007/12/icy-white-tires.html

[kenthenoob]

nic, you wanna get in on a group buy?!

[hamburglar]

^^ I have that same stem in a 55, it's so awesome.

my friend has one. his dad runs jitensha in berkeley

[hamburglar]

nic, you wanna get in on a group buy?!

idk 50 is a lot of tires.