Julian Red sizing

[Astérix]

I think that it is a bit hard to predict with the Calis just by measuring because they fit so differently in the waist than most jeans.

[CaptMomo]

ok.

taking jinx's advice, i measured my APCs and skulls.

they both measure out around 72cm.

so i reckon i'll be better off with a 27

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thanks everyone!

k, im ready to place my order now jinx. soz for all the hassle!

[cultpop 0217]

just got the hoboken nikki sixxs i bought off spencer. soooooooooooooo dope. they're a 32, and they're a little bigger than your average 32 in the waist. slouch up top, tapering through the thighs (not nearly as tight here as i thought they'd be, though -- my olas are tighter), but then oh my fucking god do they get skinny at the calf. i'm predominantly without body image issues, but i think these jeans just made me really sensitive to my apparently fat-fuck calves...

right?

the calves are ridiculous but the fit is very unique.

i love my nikkis but the fit takes a second to get used to.

[dry the rain]

it's the resurrection. i posted this in another thread and then noticed that it really should have been in this one:

don't mean to jack the thread, but: does anyone know how much the new denim stretches compared to the 2005 (i think) denim for the no wash. i have a pair of 31 (old denim, feels more even) from the very beginning of this year that look fine but are too snug for my tastes. I noticed that the old ones stretched a good bit but were kind of intransigent in areas like seams and pockets and such, b/c i got them TIGHT and now they're loose-ish but i still struggle to get my hand in the front pocket.

i went to denim bar and got a pair with the new denim (rougher texture, seems to be a looser weave) in a 32. I love the fit but they haven't done much (if any) stretching. i'm worried that this denim is going to be stretchier that the old stuff. if it is, i'm probably going to switch 'em out for the 31 (which, if it were the older denim, i wouldn't even consider).

so basically: anyone have experience with both? or could anyone tell me how much theirs stretched (the newer ones, with the very slim selvage line)?

Thanks!

[sphoxx]

^^ Yeah, cult (or any other nikki owners), your seams poppin a bit at the knee when you first got them? Mine're showing white; not too worried, hoping they'll be fine when they stretch a bit more.

[joey_formal]

cali no washes do not stretch that much because of the weave and the weight.

mine are a size 29, i am purchasing size 27 ns, so depending on the fit you are looking for they can go up or down. i always want the tightest, i normally wear a 30(acne, levis, etc) and am stoked about how little the calis have stretched but on that same note they have enough to be really quite comfortable. i have sold several pairs in downsizing and upsizing depending on my customers though.

[dry the rain]

i'm not super skinny, so i don't look good in really tight jeans. basically i want to be able to wear them slouchy but slim.

it really feels like the cali denim is pretty stretchy, but that's my relatively uninformed position. perhaps it just happens to give but won't stretch to much permanently?

and joey: i sent you a pm.

[Brinbro]

My Cali's have stretched considerably in the waist but not much anywhere else. I'm thinking about selling them actually. I regret not ordering them true-to-size rather than sizing down.

[dry the rain]

^^^ see, the new 32s fit pretty much bang on, maybe a very tiny bit loose. the 31's i tried on were pretty damn small, mostly in the waist, but the legs and seat as well. Seems like from your experience i probably went the right way in not going for the size down? what size did you go for?

are people getting these from denim bar? i hope they've still got some JR on hand when i'm home for break, b/c i can drive there then.

and just little observation: i feel like the newer cali denim is SO much nicer than the old stuff. Nicer feel, and a much richer indigo color. I even like the selvage better: slimmer, whereas it's a really thick strip on the older ones.

[Brinbro]

I got 31's when I really should have bought 32's. I'd say you chose right.

[dry the rain]

thanks for the info, man. i'm pretty sure i'm just gonna commit myself to the 32's because i know that's the size i'll be glad i have. 31's seemed like i would have been relying way too much on them stretching out.

now to get my hands on a pair of the cali silvers. i needs me some black denim.

[cultpop 0217]

^^ Yeah, cult (or any other nikki owners), your seams poppin a bit at the knee when you first got them? Mine're showing white; not too worried, hoping they'll be fine when they stretch a bit more.

the seams on the calf were definately pushing it but they have stretched nicely.

[as343]

how are these in relation to nudie jeans? For example, i'm a 28 in nudies ( wearing them low and comfortable of course) and the JR cali no wash 29 = a nudie 28 slim jim?

[sbw4224]

I'm a 32 in nudies, and I have a 32 in the cali's no wash. My cali's fit the same way the nudies do, lower on the hips and comfortable. I wouldn't size up.

[as343]

great, thanks for the info

so your julian reds stretched the same amount as your nudies?

[mr fluffernutter]

I'm a true 28 and 29 (raw) hobokens fit me perfectly.

[sbw4224]

great, thanks for the info

so your julian reds stretched the same amount as your nudies?

Yep, they stretched the same amount in the waist. The cali's have a higher rise, so they don't sit as low as the nudies do, but if I had sized up, they would be way too big. Here's a picture of me wearing my cali's (sz 32) about 2 months ago.

[as343]

looking good... alright, i think im confident in my buy now !

[minya]

Just to add:

I got a brand new, F/W 06 pair of raw Calis for Xmas, size 32. They're very tight now. I didn't measure them before wearing, but they were definitely smaller than tag size (probably about 15.5" - 15.75" across the back). They're already stretching a bit, but these new ones definitely run small. I would certainly not recommend you size down at all.

[sbw4224]

Yeah, let me add that my Cali's are from last year's old stock. I got them on sale from fos5.com in May.

[colin]

Just to add:

I got a brand new, F/W 06 pair of raw Calis for Xmas, size 32. They're very tight now. I didn't measure them before wearing, but they were definitely smaller than tag size (probably about 15.5" - 15.75" across the back). They're already stretching a bit, but these new ones definitely run small. I would certainly not recommend you size down at all.

do the legs run slimmer as well? or is it only the waist

[broady]

Do you reckon these jeans need starching? Mine feel much too comfortable :-p

[minya]

do the legs run slimmer as well? or is it only the waist

no, frankly the legs aren't really slim at all.

[as343]

but the new batch will stretch a lot? Enough for me to sag?

[titleofauser]

what is the difference in fit between the californias and the detroits? I'm guessing detroits have a looser cut, but are they significantly looser? bootcut?

I love the fit of my APC NS (size 33)...so how would you compare them to those?

[joey_formal]

what is the difference in fit between the californias and the detroits? I'm guessing detroits have a looser cut, but are they significantly looser? bootcut?

I love the fit of my APC NS (size 33)...so how would you compare them to those?

the rise on the detroits is crazy high, and the fit is a more relaxed straight with a slight taper

[dry the rain]

so just to add some more info: i just got a pair of the cali silvers and they run MUCH smaller than the new batch of no-wash. something like 2 sizes smaller is how they felt when i got em. i do have that fun layer of holiday fat that may be affecting my perception of sizing when i got each pair, but they're no doubt at least one size smaller.

[minya]

What wash are the "silvers"?

Anyone had a chance to check out the "Drowned" wash in person?

[colin]

the silvers aren't a washed model. they're raw black denim with red selvage and silver weft.

[EpiCurean]

so just to add some more info: i just got a pair of the cali silvers and they run MUCH smaller than the new batch of no-wash. something like 2 sizes smaller is how they felt when i got em. i do have that fun layer of holiday fat that may be affecting my perception of sizing when i got each pair, but they're no doubt at least one size smaller.

I'm considering buying the silvers from Kitchener. My black Diors are size 33 (19cm, made in Japan) and slightly loose in the waist. Is there any chance I could squeeze myself into a 33, since that is the biggest size left at kitchener?