good hip hop

[ProfMonnitoff]

bad hip hop = rap.

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[ktothe]

bad hip hop = rap.

hip hop:

kopushik madvillainy remixes

You're an idiot.

Um...Lupe is wack and isnt very complex. Is hip hop so intellectually dumbed down that Lupe can be considered 'complex'?

Skateboarding was hot 'in the hood' since day one.

Im gonna go listen to Shai Hulud now. Peace and chicken grease.

[ktothe]

I just got this and its the best album of 07:

[NESK]

yo link a track so i can feel the heat.

[ktothe]

yo link a track so i can feel the heat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyoTx-JaoDM

- not on the album

It looks like he was on Rawkus as recently as 2006, which is laughable, but I wont hate on him for that.

...Though its HIGHLY suspect.

[NESK]

yo anyone see kanye botch his lines on snl? he stried to freestyle his way out of it. hes wack off the dome, but he handled that slip pretty graceful considering his rep to diva out over shit. makes me want to see him live.

[ktothe]

Nah but I the skit where he runs up on every award show ever.

FUCK THAT I got the nicest pumpkin fam. You got years to grow a pumpkin.

EDIT: I guess the back and forth between NESK and I got deleted by mods. Shit was just too real for them. If you come to the hood you cant just delete the heaters playa. I'll send shots like packets and DDOS your dime piece kid. Real talk.

[mike lowrey]

Is hip hop so intellectually dumbed down that Lupe can be considered 'complex'?

[NESK]

mike, you lose if you beleive that. just cause the stuff on the surface is brainless doesnt mean that the people who know their shit should settle for less. just dig a bit deeper. no need to consume some mass market 'complex' shit just cause its better than the mass market dumb shit. just bow out of that market all together and do your own thing. and dont delete my troofs dat i be preachin. smart dumb niggas.

[Jon's_Coffee_Shop]

RZA apparently smoked 1lb of weed per week while working on the new Wu album:

http://img482.imageshack.us/my.php?image=85355852qh5.jpg

(Pic/Article)

damn son. If i had money, I would be doing the same shit (maybe not every week lol)

[Jon's_Coffee_Shop]

weirdnjfan1: try some material from:

-9th Wonder

-Slum Village

-Madlib and Quasimoto

-The Roots

-Pharoahe Monch

-Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Pete Rock instrumentals

-Murs

-Mathematics instrumentals

-Masta Killa

-Madvillain

-Little Brother

-Jeru The Damaja

-Jaylib

-Gravediggaz

-EPMD

-Dead Prez

-Brand Nubian (One for All specifically)

[hollywood cole]

you can never go wrong with:

A Tribe Called Quest

Black Moon

Little Brother

Justus League

9th Wonder's new album Dream Merchant Vol. 2 = off the chain

few songs you must hear tho-

Black Moon- I Got U Opin

ATCQ- Electric Relaxation

Black Moon- How Many Emcees

Common- The Light

Talib- The Blast

[NESK]

yo people should listen to:

- little brother

- tribe called quest

- de la soul

(real hip hop, specifically)

i wonder why noone mentioned that yet.

[Jon's_Coffee_Shop]

yo people should listen to:

- little brother

- tribe called quest

- de la soul

(real hip hop, specifically)

i wonder why noone mentioned that yet.

uhh... right...

[wEstSidE]

mike, you lose if you beleive that. just cause the stuff on the surface is brainless doesnt mean that the people who know their shit should settle for less. just dig a bit deeper. no need to consume some mass market 'complex' shit just cause its better than the mass market dumb shit. just bow out of that market all together and do your own thing. and dont delete my troofs dat i be preachin. smart dumb cats.

EXACTLY...

[ktothe]

Fuck That Fam.

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This is pretty much as good as hip hop gets.

"Yeah but do you think you're the best scientist on Earth?"

"...I mean,perhaps..."

[mike lowrey]

mike, you lose if you beleive that. just cause the stuff on the surface is brainless doesnt mean that the people who know their shit should settle for less. just dig a bit deeper. no need to consume some mass market 'complex' shit just cause its better than the mass market dumb shit. just bow out of that market all together and do your own thing. and dont delete my troofs dat i be preachin. smart dumb niggas.

I was obviously being sarcastic and not very serious with that. part of it is true I think, but make no mistake I'm not settling for anything. most of the time I do bow out of the market and a majority of music I listen to is not very visible in mainstream media. if however I like something that is or becomes popular I'm not gonna ditch it because of that.

I like Lupe Fiasco, I think he has good tracks, good stories, I like how he plays with words, similes, double meanings etc. I do think he has some rather complex content in his shit and I don't really see how anyone could even deny that. so far I haven't heard any proper explanation apart from "hes wack".

[un-]

damn son. If i had money, I would be doing the same shit (maybe not every week lol)

I wonder what the fuck happens to you when you're that high...guess we'll see when the album comes out, lol. I don't see why we can't agree to disagree on the whole Lupe shit...it's not that serious. A smart dumb cat is a person who keeps telling you their negative perception of a music artist you like in hopes that you'll stop listening to them/talking about their music, even though it's evident you most likely won't.

Can someone school me on Busdriver...?

[ktothe]

I wonder what the fuck happens to you when you're that high...guess we'll see when the album comes out, lol. I don't see why we can't agree to disagree on the whole Lupe shit...it's not that serious. A smart dumb cat is a person who keeps telling you their negative perception of a music artist you like in hopes that you'll stop listening to them/talking about their music, even though it's evident you most likely won't.

Can someone school me on Busdriver...?

Busdriver is one of those super scientifical rappers thats a unique and beautiful snowflake saving hip hop. I mean that as negatively as I hope it sounds.

However his live show is great. Id give him a listen, it might click with you.

[Icicle Cubicle]

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heres that fool in hawaii last week.

[ktothe]

The best part of his shows are when he goes off and raps 1000 bars a minute. His flow never suffers its ridiculous. I used to go see him at Project Blowed every week just for that 5 minutes of heat.

Speaking of ridiculous flows - What ever happened to Crucial Conflict?

[Egpt]

people need to stop defending rappers like they are their family and elaborating essays when doing it.

[78]

so far I haven't heard any proper explanation apart from "hes wack".

Yes you did. Don't like Mikey Mike! LIES I TELL YOU LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIES!

Example was Vast's work on the Can Ox 'Cold Vein' vs. Lupe's Food, Liquer & whatever it was called.

Like Lupe. Do support him. BUT DO NOT SAY HE'S COMPLEX.

[ktothe]

Yes you did. Don't like Mikey Mike! LIES I TELL YOU LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIES!

Example was Vast's work on the Can Ox 'Cold Vein' vs. Lupe's Food, Liquer & whatever it was called.

Like Lupe. Do support him. BUT DO NOT SAY HE'S COMPLEX.

Vordul on The Cold Vein > Vast.

azxa-ccUHmc

[NESK]

busdrivers career peaked when he was on blind date. crucial fell off when naughty by nature stopped piggybacking them, they probly also had heat coming from chanel and the crips for stealing intellectual property/trademarks. i heard the crips got dem johnny cochrane-ass lawyas. you cant throw up crossed Cs without catching a case or a slug.

i like that can ox album, but vast and his winded whinnie the pooh cadence fucks me up so hard, i cant handle the album all the way through. vordul never did it for me. still i would say can ox is miles ahead of lupe in terms of complexity. but thats like saying gus van sant is miles ahead of micheal bay in terms of complexity. as far as gimmicked rappers who get airplay go, id say kanye has a bajillion times the substance as lupe, and im not even that big a ye fan. i just think lupe is so manufactured and yet one dimensional that it blows my mind that dudes on this board who like alot of the shit i like can actually find something in his music worth listening to. although, as i may have said earlier in this thread, food and liquor is my favorite album insert of all time because of the photos.

[un-]

Busdriver is one of those super scientifical rappers thats a unique and beautiful snowflake saving hip hop. I mean that as negatively as I hope it sounds.

However his live show is great. Id give him a listen, it might click with you.

lol @ you holding a grudge, where'd the animosity come from? I probably listen to similar shit you do, with a few obvious exceptions, lol. You seemed way more chill when I first found out you posted on here too. Sans the bullshit, thanks, but I don't think I'll be peeping a live show from him anytime soon.

lmao @ dude being on blind date...

People need to stop dissing an artist everytime directly after they're mentioned in the thread. Ok, we get it, you don't like the artist...doesn't mean people will stop mentioning them.

[NESK]

not to start an argument, but this is a discussion board and talking about the merits of an artists work in a thread called the good new hip hop thread is pretty standard. if people want to get butt hurt or are tired of reading that sort of thing, there is tonnes of fashion porn to scope. this thread is mature enough by now that theres some people whove established themselves as good taste having listeners and some healthy disagreement is kinda fun. it makes for good jokes, if nothing else. i wouldnt try to talk someone out of liking lupe, but having to read about every time he makes a monosylabic verse about how deep he is gets real repetitive. im sure my casual hate gets boring too, but if were all throwing in our 2 cents at any given time, whose to say when the argument ends/begins. just roll with it doogs. we can just keep shitting this thread up until something fresh pops out. like them hezekiah tracks, that was pleasant.

[NESK]

oh shit. -un, did you watch that hip hop vs america thing BET did? i heard they had nelson george and chuck d on the panel, as well as TI, nelly, and some other dudes. i just read about it a minute ago and it sounded interesting. wish i had have known in advance.

[wEstSidE]

i lyk redman

dood is fukn hot fire. how cum his name aint cum up recently???

[NESK]

i think he put out an album a bit ago. timbo did the beat on the single i heard. i dont think def jam promoted it because the track he wrote about jay z ddint make the album.