Sheen on raw denim...?

[Becks23]

Sheen/Shine is something I really like on raw denim. I remmeber somebody mentioning this was due to the way the denim was compressed through the rollers... but I have a question, when people refer to resin on denim what exactly is it?

-is it a treatment done to the denim to give it that shine

-if so, do the jeans maintain sheen even through washes

-and does non-resin sheen tends to go away with washes

thanks a lot

[snugglepony]

-yes

-no

-yes

[Becks23]

so whats the purpose of the resin? or is it solely aesthetic?

[snugglepony]

it will probably slow the fading/flaking of the indigo, but it won't maintain its 'sheen' through washes.

do a search for the levis a-types -- i believe there's a thread discussing a) that they're resin coated and that they're not breaking in very quickly.

[ringring]

Resin is used for several purposes including:

anti-crocking

3D - whiskers & various crinkle effects

colour & shine - it has an effect on industrial washing

It can be applied by spraying or dipping the garment or by applying it to the fabric before cutting as part of the finishing process.

The shine on dry denim is different - it's from calandering, and when the seat of your jeans go shiney, it's the same effect of compression+moisture.

[mizanation]

ringring,

how does 45 rpm and chimala get that wrinkled effect on their jeans? is it possible to get that effect from "regular" jeans?

http://mizanation.blogspot.com

[cheapmuthafukr]

ill answer.

cold soak your raws, bunch them up into a ball, let them dry like that.

If you've lost your faith in superfuture, Oh the end won't be long

Because if it's gone for you then I too may lose it, And that would be wrong

I've tried so hard to keep myself from falling

Back into my bad old ways

And it chars my heart to always hear you calling

Calling for the good old days

Because there were no good old days

These are the good old days

[denimdestroyedmylife]

i would guess that is the same technique employed by 45rpm/chimala.

Using chain stitch, your train of jeans is fading wind.

[cheapmuthafukr]

ddml and cmf tag team doin it again...

If you've lost your faith in superfuture, Oh the end won't be long

Because if it's gone for you then I too may lose it, And that would be wrong

I've tried so hard to keep myself from falling

Back into my bad old ways

And it chars my heart to always hear you calling

Calling for the good old days

Because there were no good old days

These are the good old days

[greentea]

you guys DP'n.

[denimdestroyedmylife]

no pics

Using chain stitch, your train of jeans is fading wind.

[cheapmuthafukr]

what the fuck is dp?

If you've lost your faith in superfuture, Oh the end won't be long

Because if it's gone for you then I too may lose it, And that would be wrong

I've tried so hard to keep myself from falling

Back into my bad old ways

And it chars my heart to always hear you calling

Calling for the good old days

Because there were no good old days

These are the good old days

[denimdestroyedmylife]

my supertrash sense is tingling...

Using chain stitch, your train of jeans is fading wind.

[cheapmuthafukr]

it is only a matter of time.

Edited by cheapmuthafukr on May 11, 2006 at 09:06 AM

[denimdestroyedmylife]

you know, it's a shame b/c Ring2 dropped some knowledge, too. surely, R2 addressed this elsewhere---the same questions keep coming around. anyway, supertrash is searchable.

Using chain stitch, your train of jeans is fading wind.

[cheapmuthafukr]

honestly, i was trying to be helpful too... damn.

If you've lost your faith in superfuture, Oh the end won't be long

Because if it's gone for you then I too may lose it, And that would be wrong

I've tried so hard to keep myself from falling

Back into my bad old ways

And it chars my heart to always hear you calling

Calling for the good old days

Because there were no good old days

These are the good old days

[denimdestroyedmylife]

the reverse Midas touch-----your posts turns golden threads into trash

Using chain stitch, your train of jeans is fading wind.

[tweeds]

you guys need a talk show.

[cheapmuthafukr]

well look into that. maybe a thread dedicated to people asking questions and us just turning gold into trash. golden trash mind you, but trash all the same.

If you've lost your faith in superfuture, Oh the end won't be long

Because if it's gone for you then I too may lose it, And that would be wrong

I've tried so hard to keep myself from falling

Back into my bad old ways

And it chars my heart to always hear you calling

Calling for the good old days

Because there were no good old days

These are the good old days

[tweeds]

and a pit to drop clueless people into. USE THE SEARCH BUTTON boom

[ringring]

Quote:

ringring,

how does 45 rpm and chimala get that wrinkled effect on their jeans? is it possible to get that effect from "regular" jeans?

--- Original message by mizanation on May 11, 2006 06:45 AM

Jeans that have a very dry handfeel and have a crinkle that is semi-permanent (ie you can see they have been hanging in a store for weeks and all the crinkles are still there) - they have been resin'd. Dipped or sprayed in resin, scrunched up, and given a nice short bake in an oven.

[mizanation]

thanks RR!

http://mizanation.blogspot.com

[walletboy]

I'd think what is being referred to as resin might actually be nothing other than starch for some jeans. For example, Wrangler says on its Web site that the raw denim on the 13mzw (which is not shrink to fit ) has starch, and doesn't say anything about resin. Interestingly, it says that you must wash the raw denim jeans in hot water the first three times in order to avoid leaving white starch spots that will not come out with subsequent washing. Has anyone had this happen to them on any raw denim?

I looked on the Levi Strauss website and couldn't find anything about starch or resin in the stf or raw denim jeans. But I wonder if what ever it is that makes them stiff is just starch. This may not apply to more exotic denim finishes.

Edited by walletboy on May 11, 2006 at 01:17 PM

Edited by walletboy on May 11, 2006 at 01:18 PM

[cheapmuthafukr]

raw denim has starch in it. this is used to make sewing and cutting easier in the manufacturing stage. these jeans are not washed and unless sanforized they will shrink and twist. the jeans that are discussed above with resin are pre-washed and treated with resin to give the fabric stiffness and sheen. this is done to simulate the raw look and feel, but since they are pre washed you wont have to worry about the shrinkage, and you can buy the size that fits you when you try them on.

both will lose stiffness and sheen when washed, altho the resin treatment will last longer than the starch.

If you've lost your faith in superfuture, Oh the end won't be long

Because if it's gone for you then I too may lose it, And that would be wrong

I've tried so hard to keep myself from falling

Back into my bad old ways

And it chars my heart to always hear you calling

Calling for the good old days

Because there were no good old days

These are the good old days

[Denimlover]

some very interesting reading here.i have learnt a lot..i notice some jeans have a sheen to them especially when new..they look nice in the sun and does anyone else see this too.

[salaami]

i love how denim looks different right at dawn, and before dusk. i used to walk to the store as the sun sets just so i could look at my jeans as i walk up the hill...trust, i alreaky know im weird.

[akuma no uta]

i miss the sheen on all my jeans...

[Hendodo]

i miss the sheen on all my jeans...

you should just starch them again

[salaami]

dont say that...the townspeople will chase you with torches&spears:eek:

[denimlover2009]

what sort of resin is used?