Samurai Denim

[Cameland]

Yeah the picture is pretty bad, I tried to ajust the levels to make it brighter but you get the general idea.

[dino might]

awesome thanks, is one the 5000s and one some nudies or what?

[Cameland]

oops! forgot that small detail. On the left are my size 29 RRDS and on the right my Lot.9 5000vx size 29. They fit the same in the waist.

[dino might]

and lot 9 is supposedly bigger than 10 yes?

[Cameland]

Yeah lot. 9 was a size bigger but the 5000 was always cut relatively huge by measurement because of its low rise. If you remember back when the BK was first released everyone had completely differnet sizing.

[dino might]

word. im thinking of them for my next samurais. you have the 710s like i do, i was thinking go one up from my 710s for the 5000s, yay or nay? i dont want them hugging my ass and thighs like my 710s do, 'specially considering im looking at the 21ozers

[lowrider]

Man... what I would give for an Ai version of the 710. Why do all the cool ones have to be a relaxed fit???

[Cameland]

word. im thinking of them for my next samurais. you have the 710s like i do, i was thinking go one up from my 710s for the 5000s, yay or nay? i dont want them hugging my ass and thighs like my 710s do, 'specially considering im looking at the 21ozers

I would get the same size as your 710s dino. If you got a 31 might actually be a little loose. Also the zero denim takes a while to get all the shrinkage out of the way. So you might consider only sizing up 1. Even getting a size lower than your 710s (lot.9), your jeans will still not be tight on your thighs. Well I wouldnt think so and maybe the 21oz denim won't shrink as much? There many variables to consider here.

[beatle]

Dino - wait for the S5000VX 21 oz...will full fill a lot of needs...

Yeah - lot 10 is the smaller generation of S5000VX ...

[adrian]

Yeah lot. 9 was a size bigger but the 5000 was always cut relatively huge by measurement because of its low rise. If you remember back when the BK was first released everyone had completely differnet sizing.

Damn, I have lot 9 and they fit a little big to begin with, but now they stretched out Wish I knew about lot 9 being bigger before I bought them...

[Cameland]

Zero denim takes a while to get to its fully shrunken down size. Give them a hot wash and chuck them in a dryer. It should help a lot.

[beatle]

Damn, I have lot 9 and they fit a little big to begin with, but now they stretched out Wish I knew about lot 9 being bigger before I bought them...

You could'nt have known...they just started downsizing with lot 10...

Yeah - zero denim shrinks plenty, just wait and wear and wash..

[napoleon]

Yeah - zero denim shrinks plenty, just wait and wear and wash..

Another lot 9er. Sized down 1 to 31 and after hot soak, dry, try on, hot soak again, try on again they didn't shrink much. Waist stayed the same and now stretched to 34 1/2 ". They sit on the hips very comfortably but only because my arse stops them from falling lower. The cut + weight of the denim = no drape, and because my upper leg is thin, they flatten front and back and flare bellow the hip. I'm thinking I should have sized down 2 but then they wouldn't be so comfortable and I wanted a wider leg opening jean.

I might have to take them to a laundromat and dump them into a dryer on hottest.

And now I'm looking at PBJs that start of a half inch wider in the waist when raw for the same size and I'm agonizing again. 31 or one more down to 30 because they are a looser weave and should stretch more. Oh the pain of internet buying!

From left to right.. 5000vx pre soak and pre hem; after 4 Months flare on right but just as bad on left if standing straight; & sometimes no hip flare. (hemmed by an inch or two)

[dino might]

alright beatle, im in if youre in

[Raskol]

alright beatle, im in if youre in

haha, im already saving up for it, which sadly means passing on the WH contest

[dino might]

im in on both. and i still have the scrawny 13 KMWs coming for me too. im fucked...by denim..

[beatle]

alright beatle, im in if youre in

Def. in...have to sell the 510's 21 oz....stupid me , preordered them before the 5000's were official....

[AsherC]

is there anywhere with more info about the 5000 21oz? when were they announced? when are they available?

[edmond]

hi guy im back from an out of town work.. anyways they look just lik the regular s5000vx but with 21oz. denim...

[erbs]

and lot 9 is supposedly bigger than 10 yes?

I just measured my lot 9 vx and my lot 10 bk and they are absolutely identical. both have had one hot soak. I don't know if this a a fluke or what, but I guess they are not always different

[beatle]

10 and 9 for black and indigo are made in the same year...thus the same sizing...

[dino might]

is there anywhere with more info about the 5000 21oz? when were they announced? when are they available?

end of this year. theres more info on some japanese site(s), but i dont speak japanese

[mothys]

Samurai will re-release the One-Eyed Dragon(S7000VX) this A/W 2007.

they're up on the Samurai web site now!

[beatle]

The one back pocket is like a curse...

[beatle]

But the selvage waist line is a blessing..

[scoon0224]

And I love the black arcs... which is back on the 510-19oz as well.

ANd the S0310XX has a half lined pocket (add it to everything please)

Samurai is gonna be the death of me... cuz I want them all

17's? check... Now I just need 19's, 21's, 15oz texan, 17oz black, and 17oz lefty...

[skiniks]

does anyone have an idea of which style would be similar to the imperial dukes?

[indigo_junkie]

S710. I own both. Hunt around the New Samurai model thread and the Imperial thread (some way back for that one), because I have fit pics of both floating around sufu. It's similar, not exactly the same, but the denim is just better imo (no offence to the Imperal, guys. just imo).

[skiniks]

yeah, i've got dukes right now and i'd like to "upgrade" to some sams. even though i just started these haha.

[dino might]

if you want slim samurais get the 710s. you wont be dissapointed. i fucking love mine. a manly jean and slim cut. they own.