Samurai Denim

[Guest The Diplomatic Aristocrat]

What's their cheapest jeans, and where can I get them online without buying them from a Japanese site?

I'm like the Afrocentric Asian, half-man, half-amazin'

[minya]

You cannot get them online without buying them from a Japanese site.

[asfberg]

what size are you looking for?

none of them are cheap btw

[Guest The Diplomatic Aristocrat]

Yes, I know. Around 28.

I'm like the Afrocentric Asian, half-man, half-amazin'

[DJ_Flame]

Cheapest would be a used pair. The prices would run in the high 200s.

*Shakes fist at America's youth*

[greentea]

samuria jeans are not for poor.

[peteyross]

You guys are forgetting that he's a diplomatic aristocrat....he's gotta have cake if he's diplomatic and aristocratic so let's not worry about price.

In all seriousness though, your best bet to get Samurai jeans is to (1) ask a friend in Japan, (2) use a bidservice (ie Celga), or (3) fly to Japan and buy them there.

Edited by peteyross on Mar 12, 2006 at 08:21 AM

[Guest The Diplomatic Aristocrat]

Alright, I was just curious. Thanks. I'll probably buy some when I go over the summer.

I'm like the Afrocentric Asian, half-man, half-amazin'

[tweeds]

Randomly, their shirts are hideous. [

[frideswide]

Samurai is a pretty small outfit, based in Osaka. They have no trouble selling their entire output in the domestic Japanese market and feel no particular need to 'go global'. Some of their production runs number only a 100 or 200 jeans and sell out pretty quickly. They come out with new models every year and are always experimenting with something new (like persimmon-juice dyed jeans, etc.).

I agree about the shirts, though...

[ayn]

IIRC, denimbar told me he got some Samurai's in. I wasn't interested (i know they are not cheap) so I didn't ask how much...

[Ahlvahroe]

Can someone explain these to me, are they made partly of wood? http://item.rakuten.co.jp/d-stock/s5000-ka

While they are not really my taste, they do look interesting.

[frideswide]

Those are the persimmon-tanin dyed denim I was referring to in my message above. In Japanese it is called "kaki-shibu" dyeing.

Persimmon is a type of fruit --- extremely bitter when unripe --- and its juice, which is full of dark brown tanin, is used in place of indigo in the making of this particular type of denim. Kaki-shibu has the characteristic that it strongly darkens as it oxidizes, which means that these jeans will tend to darken over time, not lighten. Other than the dye, the material is made of normal cotton (not a fiber mix like sugarcanes).

This run was limited to 100 pairs of jeans, and as far as I know all are sold.

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Edited by frideswide on Mar 14, 2006 at 04:43 AM

[john11f]

where can i buy samurai jeans in tokyo? how does it compare with 45rpm?

[YoungPunch]

their shop list is on the website under "select shops." I'm not sure which ones are in tokyo, but that link gives all the info.

I haven't seen any samurai jeans in person, but from the pictures and everytrhing I've heard they are very good quality jeans. Similar to studio d'artisan, sugarcane, and some models of 45 rpm. Samurai makes some natural indigo models, heavy 19 oz denim, and some nice special editions too.

http://www.samurai-j.com/samurai/samurai_main.html

[Geowu]

45 rpm and samurai should be equal in quality, the differences being in the subjectiveness.

[Ahlvahroe]

Thanks for the info. I didnt think that it was persimmon cause I remember someone posting these, http://www.rakuten.co.jp/hinoya/119698/303245/ a while back and I thought that all persimmon ones would look that way.

Also, this picture http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/s/?@0_mall/d-stock/cabinet/00019176/img12548647.jpg makes them look a bit "woody."

[LFC4ever]

Can anyone please tell me the difference between the s5000vx and the s3000vx ?

[trinket]

john11f: "Americaya" in Shibuya or Ueno should have them. I only recently looked at Samurai's range, but it seems that they specialise in thicker/heavier denims. Most of their current range are 16 oz, 17oz, 19oz.

LFC4ever: I think the 3000VX is a wider/looser cut, and it has the painted stitching on the pocket.

link here: http://www.rakuten.ne.jp/gold/americaya/

_trinket

Edited by trinket on Mar 15, 2006 at 05:45 AM

[LFC4ever]

Trinket - thanks.Do you know if the S5000 non wash fits true to size ( ie if I'm a w36 should I go for w36 ).I founs Sugar Cane tend to oversize, so for example I really need a w34 in their raw denim but in Studio D'Artisan 105's I'm a w36 !

[horriblyjollyjinx]

Samurais shink to tagged size. There are measurements in most rakuten stores, here for example

http://www.rakuten.co.jp/d-stock/540681/572851/

Anyone know when Samurai's new collection will be out? Most of their jeans are sold out or only available in a few sizes.

dontcaretoomuchforcrap CANT SKATE!!

[LFC4ever]

Hi

Thanks for this - the ones on the link appear to be washed, but I guess I'm trying to decide whether to go for w34 or w36 in unwashed ( waist can be stretched out ) so if they are sized like Sugar Cane I guess w34 ( cos the raw size will be bigger than w34 ! ).

[horriblyjollyjinx]

The measurements are after wash but they jeans on the pictures are not washed, not sure what you meant. They are probably 2" bigger in the waist when raw.

dontcaretoomuchforcrap CANT SKATE!!

[LFC4ever]

Thanks - I think it said "washed" on the web page - however if they're 2" bigger when raw then I think that answers my question thanks, I'd get a w34 and either not wash them or cold soak and stretch !

Thanks for your help.

[Raw Selvedge]

Hey, it seems a bit early to be asking this now but, i'm gonna go to hong kong at the end of November and I'm thinking about getting a pair of samurai's but I'm not sure which ones yet. I'm thinking between the S0500XX, S510XX-19OZ2 and S5000VX. Besides that they are 15oz, 19oz and 17oz respectively what are the differences? I've been reading up on these but havn't really gotten a good insight into these since i just use a translator to translate japanese to english and it doesnt really explain much. I've read that usually the heavier the denim the better but also that 15oz is the best weight and anything over 15oz doesn't improve the quality of the denim. What's the difference between zero model and samurai model? Fit-wise which ones would be closest to the SSDS? Coz I'm wearing a pair of SSDS at the moment and love the fit.

[Raw Selvedge]

Oh and should I size down with these or not. Coz I sized down my SSDS by 2 sizes coz I'm a true size 32 waist and got size 30 and have found that it was the best decision that I could have made since i was thinking between getting size 30 or 31 for a while but decided on getting 30.

[ishboo]

ill spare you

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=12423

[Guest jeffvyain]

that link doesn't say much about the fit difference...

raw selvage, i imagine that in a couple weeks or so, many people here will be able to, at the very least, be able to tell you about the S0500xx, but until then, you'll just have to check measurements to help you out. i have a pair of size 30 s5000vx's, and I ordered a pair of size 29 S0500XXs for the denim contest. my size 30s were too big though. they measure out to more like 31 1/2 and that was after 2 hot washes and a run through the dryer to shrink them more. so I risked it and went small with the S0500XXs because i want to have to stretch them a bit so I can be tighter in the thighs and around 19 cm at the hem. they'll probably be pretty tight around the waist, but i'll wear them damp and stretch them out for a few days.

here's a pretty horrible quality picture of the size 30 s5000vx on me... man they were rock hard back then

[mizanation]

man jeff, that's a great fit, i don't see why you think they are too big.

[poly800rock]

you really need to clean your mirror!