Raf Simons F/W 09.10 Paris

[artificialsky]

RAF HAS BETRAYED US.

[jeepster]

big sleeves are big.

(silly sleeve concept)

[fg0d]

ss08 was dope, this is whackness

[Liberation1945]

puffy sleeves on suits are the new suits

suits are the new leather jackets

not punk is the new punk

feel me?

[mumma]

IMHO one of the most interesting collections from Paris

so far. Refreshing, but don't know if "true" young Raf fans

get it, since it's quite perverse and punky in a way - to be

honest the stuff is as modern as his collections from early 00.

Love the suit looks with sneakers, very 90s though but

fits somehow to the context of contepomary fashion,

so quite fresh at the same time. And tailoring of suits, too long

blazers and those wide pants is just amazing. It's important

that the collection is based on self-reflection/ redefining

his own classics (that's probably why it started with suits

which reminds us of his very early collections).

Haven't seen so well constructed looks with so

strong concept for a long time from Raf, really.

Also it's not that similar to the stuff he did for Jil, I mean

it's more like a punky/ or fucked-up version of that stuff,

and not so serious.

[Lucas]

--------fixed.

raf has sucked since a/w 06.

[kunk75]

a/w 07 was a solid collection and very wearable. don;t know why you guys won;t let him grow up.

[chronoaug]

i miss journeys through adolescence raf

[evisu 2000]

a/w 07 was a solid collection and very wearable. don;t know why you guys won;t let him grow up.

it's not really the issue of wearability or letting him grow up; his women's collections for jil sander are mature and sophisticated. the fact that raf and jil sander, lines with completely opposite ideals, have been overlapping for a good 2 or 3 seasons now is evidence he is being spread too thin. this collection is not true nor something he believes in. futurism elements are still present, but it's too non-specific and the progression too artificial

[Guest Phrost]

[Guest Phrost]

taken from a shaded view on fashion

[Guest Phrost]

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video by David Gil

[Liberation1945]

weird...from this angle and also the video posted, everything looks kinda...better...

ayo just cop puffy sleeve jacket and wear it over wave test sweater and like wrap some shit around your face and put some punk patches all over your jacket.

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

[minou]

i have to agree things look sorta better at those angles and even in the vid but those fucking track shoes should burn in hell.

[78]

the runners have got to be a joke

[mr fluffernutter]

he's done similar runners before... but mommmmmmmm mmmmmmmm,more successful and big

in s/s 06but

but they were much better and less

maybe hes just designing a collection for himself to wear. kind of looks that way

COUGH OLD MANNNING

but i can understand what he's doin g/// just dont like it or thi keyboard

[Guest Phrost]

raf took clothes that kids wore and made it fashion. bomber jackets in all sizes, band shirts, hoodies, new wave jumpsuits. he was so in tune to what kids were actually wearing, which was why he was such an impact. for the past 3 years or so, he has been designing from a perspective of someone who is trying to reinterpret his influences into something new. his recent work is a big departure from what he started with that you don't immediately see his vision, which is why i think ppl are dismissing him

that said, this collection still sucks. his past presentations were really a show, like radioactivity, history of the world, or the one with the escalator. the interactive mirrors are cool to look at, but seem like a big budget production. i think he still has the talent, but he just needs to refocus his ideas to what he does best

[78]

has the worry of spreading himself too thin finally caught up?

[junebugmm]

Not too exciting unfortunately

[ProfMonnitoff]

http://www.oki-ni.com/invt/raf0034blk

lol

[bartholomeww]

Anyone who has said anything about the athletic sneakers, come off of it. The reference, as with the neoprene sleeves/boleros (yes, that's what they are), is to Easton Ellis's American Psycho. Raf is playing with duality; the bespoke-style tailoring of the suit paired with a bolero whose purpose is to... keep blood from splattering your sleeves?

And you can't believe he actually wants anyone to wear athletic sneakers with suits, or for such a trend to catch on amongst his clientele. It's an underhanded comment, like, "nice kicks, banker."

Also, Raf doesn't produce in China (unless the diffusion line does).

[ProfMonnitoff]

if patrick bateman can do it without a stupid looking raf simons bolero, so can i

why should i compromise my swag while killing people?

[bartholomeww]

because you've got a closet full of them and they come cheap. you're patrick bateman, remember?

[kunk75]

couldn't rep but very good post

raf took clothes that kids wore and made it fashion. bomber jackets in all sizes, band shirts, hoodies, new wave jumpsuits. he was so in tune to what kids were actually wearing, which was why he was such an impact. for the past 3 years or so, he has been designing from a perspective of someone who is trying to reinterpret his influences into something new. his recent work is a big departure from what he started with that you don't immediately see his vision, which is why i think ppl are dismissing him

that said, this collection still sucks. his past presentations were really a show, like radioactivity, history of the world, or the one with the escalator. the interactive mirrors are cool to look at, but seem like a big budget production. i think he still has the talent, but he just needs to refocus his ideas to what he does best

[Guest Phrost]

Anyone who has said anything about the athletic sneakers, come off of it. The reference, as with the neoprene sleeves/boleros (yes, that's what they are), is to Easton Ellis's American Psycho. Raf is playing with duality; the bespoke-style tailoring of the suit paired with a bolero whose purpose is to... keep blood from splattering your sleeves?

And you can't believe he actually wants anyone to wear athletic sneakers with suits, or for such a trend to catch on amongst his clientele. It's an underhanded comment, like, "nice kicks, banker."

Also, Raf doesn't produce in China (unless the diffusion line does).

i can understand the duality with the mirror theme, but it's more like smoke and mirrors to me. Raf mainline is produced in eastern european countries - romania and macedonia, with a few stuff in italy and knits in belgium by gysemans. raf diffusion is licensed by futurenet in italy

[juliaN.]

i can understand the duality with the mirror theme, but it's more like smoke and mirrors to me. Raf mainline is produced in eastern european countries - romania and macedonia, with a few stuff in italy and knits in belgium by gysemans. raf diffusion is licensed by futurenet in italy

I liked the collection, but I can respect your alternate views on it - you seem to be speaking from an informed point of view and backing your shit up with good insights. props

[huckleberry8]

Shit pic but it made me lol, I could probably get something similar for a tenner down the market

[ProfMonnitoff]

i still cant believe that towel

you know an item sucks when a 2-sentence description mentions how nice the box is. (i saw it irl and its a typical glossy cardboard box)