What denim to buy next?

[minya]

The new Boards of Canada isn't very good, by the way.

It's decent, but nothing new or terribly exciting.

[horriblyjollyjinx]

You should check out El Perro Del Mar. Not that it's in the same genre or anything but because she's good.

tally-hoo

[Denimheadcase]

Minya, really? Let me guess, they haven't yet separated themselves from that nostalgia for the sandbox? Give me a sense of what it is they're up to now. If glitch music is to your liking, would you agree that Autechre represents the pinnacle of that genre?

[ddohnggo]

i agree that autechre is the pinnacle.

[minya]

Yep, they're still definitely described best by the word "pastoral." They've added guitars, which I really dig, but they haven't really gone anywhere in terms of beats or melodies. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad, but it certainly ain't nothing new.

Actually, this is the best electronic-related thing I've heard in ages:

http://www.bambambambambam.co.uk/uploads/deepspace9mm/Enid%20&%20Rebecca%20-%20Fuck%20Analord.mp3

it's a dj mix, here's a tracklist:

http://www.bambambambambam.co.uk/uploads/deepspace9mm/Enid%20&%20Rebecca%20-%20Fuck%20Analord%20Tracklist.txt

[Denimheadcase]

Guitars? Hmmm. Interesting. Probably not on the same level of guitar and digital dirt as you find in the music of Christian Fennesz- Autechre's only serious challenge for digital primacy- but I'll buy the disc.

[Denimheadcase]

What I was gonna say is that I was seriously disappointed in M83. After reading all the critical praise when I finally got the disc I was seriously underwhelmed. That was "Dead Cities, Red Seas, Lost Ghosts". I haven't even bothered checking out the recent one. What else is good?

[minya]

M83 is awful.

If you like Autechre, you will really like Apparat. Some of the stuff on Ai Records is good, like Michael Manning's new album, but a lot of it doesn't appeal to me.

If you want haunting glitchy ambience, try Tim Hecker.

[powerglov]

I don't think that this particularly fits in with the genre that you guys are discussing, but I saw Black Dice last night and they were pretty incredible.

[Denimheadcase]

Alien 8 Records. Damn, I'm impressed. I don't like everything they back, the whole Godspeed, Set Fire To Flames endless spinoff bands is kinda tired at this point. Actually, after you've heard Swans in their heyday, there isn't alot those droney Canadians have to say. I will look into Mr Hecker.

[ddohnggo]

tim hecker is fantastic live. one of the best laptop sets i've seen. swans is fantastic too. angels of light is gira's solo stuff, who're great.

how're black dice without hisham?

[Denimheadcase]

We just kickin shit around. Genre don't matter. I got my Social D tickets all set for October. And I expect The Fall will get over here early in '06. But back to droney heavy music. I expected more from that Melvins/Lustmord collaboration. It doesn't suck, but it shoulda been a friggin' masterpiece. Although, the tune "Bloated Pope" is the shit. right up there with "Boris".

[minya]

Black Dice isn't bad.

Alien8 is a pretty diverse label (although their quality isn't always spot-on), but yeah, I agree, for the most part the whole GYBE rehash post-rock is tired. I promise you Tim Hecker sounds absolutely nothing like that. However, on the post-rock tip...

Larsen's "Play" (released on Important Records; ironically enough, their first album "Rever" was released by Gira on Young God) is probably my favorite record this year. Amazing, beautiful, haunting droning post-rock that is actually an entire album of Autechre "covers"! Go read up on it at Allmusic. It is amazing. Apparently Larsen, a bunch of mysterious Italians, holed themselves up in a studio, listened to Autechre, and tried to play their songs back on their guitars, drums, and violin. It didn't really work (there's only one direct Ae cover on the album: track 5 is a cover of VLetrmx21) but Autechre's influence is all over the disc, and it is a fucking masterpiece.

Also I discovered Laddio Bolocko this year; they were a NYC noise-psych-post-prog-rock outfit that died away in 2000, but their discography was released last year by No Quarter. Amazing, beautiful, noisy as fuck, totally crucial in all respects. Like standing on the edge of a bridge watching the sun explode while listening to krautrock on an amp turned up to 11.

edit: Just noticed you mentioned Boris! Boris are one of my absolute favorite bands in the world.

Also, you seem to live in NYC: GO SEE CIRCLE AND MERZBOW AT THE KNITTING FACTORY!! Merzbow is tired Japanoise but Circle is amazing, fucking incredible Finnish post-prog-psyck-kraut-rock that will blow you the fuck away in 100 million ways and make everything you've heard before look tired and weak. (ok, I'm biased, Circle are my favorite band ever!)

Edited by minya on Sep 12, 2005 at 03:14 PM

edit again: nice to see someone knows Laddio Bolocko! And yeah, I grabbed the Psychic Paramount disc which is great but it is mastered SO FUCKING LOUD that almost ruins it.

Edited by minya on Sep 12, 2005 at 03:15 PM

[ddohnggo]

laddio bolocko was totally sick. you have to check out psychic paramount. 2 dudes from laddio bolocko doing balls out this heat psych worship. amazing.

[Denimheadcase]

Did you mention This Heat? Nobody knows who they are. This Heat. Wire. The Fall. That was it for me way back once upon a time. Talk about nostalgia. I may very well hit that Circle gig. The band that totally kicks my ass right now is Supersilent. Pure genius. I saw them at tonic. Oh my god. If they didn't completely blow that shit apart. Masterful improvisation. Brilliant. And they are soooooo young. If they continue to grow, what they may accomplish is mind-boggling. Genius.

[minya]

Yeah, Circle are totally This Heat-inspired. Too bad all of This Heat's records have gone out of print.

Supersilent are the Norwegian electronic-jazz dudes, aren't they?

[Denimheadcase]

I've heard Larsen. On Gira's label. But Autechre covers. That's insane. I have to hear that. I'm extremely curious now about Circle. I gotta Google that one. Thanks.

[minya]

Ah, cool. IMO the new Larsen disc blows the Young God one out of the water.

www.circlefinland.com / www.ektrorecords.com for Circle links...

[Denimheadcase]

Yep, that's supersilent. Electronic improvisation. In the midst of a fierce electronic storm, one dude steps to the mic and blows his trumpet, and lays your ass out. Amazing.

[bufo]

ehh... maybe yall should move this conversation to superprivate?

[Denimheadcase]

What if we mention the kind of denim these guys wear?

[TragicBliss]

Quote: ehh... maybe yall should move this conversation to superprivate?

Thread hijacked.

http://www.tragicbliss.com

[bufo]

Quote:

Quote: ehh... maybe yall should move this conversation to superprivate?

Thread hijacked.

--- Original message by TragicBliss on Sep 12, 2005 03:30 PM

this thread has been hijacked ages ago...

[Denimheadcase]

Quote: "Born in the bucolic city of Pori, Finland, Circle has been defying expectations since 1991. This unpredictable ensemble led by Jussi Lehtisalo has been reinventing, refining and perfecting its technical drones and heavy riffs over the course of numerous European, American and Japanese releases. The band effortlessly devours and personalizes skewed progressive-rock rhythms, distorted guitar firepower, cosmic sound paintings, gleaming minimalism, Kraut-influenced phrase repetition, and hymnal incantations written in a made-up language called Meronian. Circle’s instantly recognizable albums and frantic live sets have garnered ample international praise while masterfully exploring the outer limits of grinding tension and celestial calm."

Alright. I'm interested. Btw, Magma created their own language thirty some odd years ago. Circle. Oh yeah, I'm on it.

[minya]

ok back on topic: the drummer for Circle was wearing cuffed selvage jeans when I saw them live last weekend. Couldn't tell what kind though.

[Denimheadcase]

One last thing: For mentioning Larsen and Circle. Tip o' the hat to you. I read up on Larsen's Play at Allmusic. Sounds incredible. Must have.

[ddohnggo]

denimheadcase, were you at the merzbow, circle gig at the knitting factory? i was. shit was tight.

[ddohnggo]

deathprod, the producer for supersilent, is really good. heavy drones.

[Denimheadcase]

I wasn't at that gig. My girlfriend got me the Deathprod box last Xmas.

[Guest UNKLE21]

meh

Edited by UNKLE21 on Sep 12, 2005 at 09:30 PM