Chainstiching, Is it over-hyped?

[toronto_demin]

Do you think chainstitching is worth the hassle, especially on raw?

I have looked at the hems of my chainstitched and regular stitched and don't seem much difference.

Do you think the effect is mostly due to the shrinkage of the raw denim as opposed to the stitching?

[horriblyjollyjinx]

you decide.

why does there need to be a consensus? I prefer chainstitching but it's not a big deal.

[wEstSidE]

dry denim, is it over-hyped?

[edmond]

from what a friend of mine said ( HE OWNS A DENIM MANUFACTURING PLANT ) nayways chainstiching is reinforcing without double runnings i dont know hwat he meant but i assumed that you dont have to make the jeans pass thru the machine twice but the problem with chanistiching is that when the stich starts to come off and if you try to pull it it will do a domino effect.. and yes he has a machine called a jfa im not sure made by union

[mizanation]

obviously it's not worth the hassle to you...

[jooles]

Do you think chainstitching is worth the hassle, especially on raw?

Yes it is. Read this and look at some of the pictures:

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=10933

I suspect it doesn't make a big difference for sanforised denim, but it would for unsanforised denim.

[toronto_demin]

Why would anyone suggest that I am not prepared for the hassle, why would any of us be here if we were hassle-adverse? lol

I was just asking for others opinions, not for someone to guess or judge mine

[edmond]

from my pov is that you decide what you want.. it doesnt really matter at all..

[eastcoastrider27]

If it can result in your jeans looking like this (among other things) then I would say it is under hyped if anything.

[zehero]

Yes it is. Read this and look at some of the pictures:

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=10933

I suspect it doesn't make a big difference for sanforised denim, but it would for unsanforised denim.

sanforized nudies are chainstitched. even the washed ones actually.

[ringring]

Chainstitched hems are definitely worth it, whether it be on dry denim, washed, sanforized or shrink to fit. Just my opinion of course.

However if you can't get access to one, then it shouldn't be an obstacle to buying or altering a pair of jeans.

If I could get chainstitching, I'd simply sew a regular hem, but us a thick, 100% if possible, cotton thread and keep the hem height low. Half an inch from fold to fold, or less than 1cm from folded edge and stitching.

[edmond]

If it can result in your jeans looking like this (among other things) then I would say it is under hyped if anything.

whoaaa what brand and model of denim can result in that "ropping effect?" im gonna get mahself one hehhee

[jooles]

I suspect it doesn't make a big difference for sanforised denim, but it would for unsanforised denim.

sanforized nudies are chainstitched. even the washed ones actually.

The reason I think it doesn't matter as much is because sanforised denim (and washed denim, for that matter) doesn't shrink and twist as much as unsanforised denim. If it doesn't shrink/twist as much, then the roping effect won't be as pronounced.

If chain-stitching effectively makes a more pronounced 'barrier' between the hem and the other part of the denim, then the twisting effect will be localised to the hemmed portion.

[Dogfarm]

Is chainstitching overhyped? This is a silly question. Why would you not want a pair of jeans that is constructed better? While your at it why don't we talk about some other things that are "overhyped" How about felled seams, halflined back pockets, bartacks and rivets, double ringspun denim, and any other earmarks of quality craftsmanship we can think of.

Short answer is no chainstiching is not overhyped. Regardless is it gives your jeans the roping effect or not it gives you a stronger hem that also has a bit of give to it and is a one (not the only but one of many) earmarks to help you decide if what your looking at is a quality piece of denim or just some shitty fashion jean.

[coleslawyum]

I agree with dogfarm. Besides, don't you want the vintage details to be correct? And what about the dope roping effect on the hem?

[tweeds]

as far as possible, chainstitching would be great to have. however, to say that "if i can't chainstitch my hems, i'm not going to hem" (and etc) is a bit silly.

my APCs don't have chainstitched hems, and nobody complains too much about APC hems...

somebody (synthi, possibly) has mentioned using an embroidery stitch with a thick cotton thread gauge might be a good alternative, i don't recall if he reported back on that count. i'm not well-versed in stitches so i'm not even sure what stitch he's referring to. but that might be a lead to follow...

[justinbaily21]

"Using chain stitch, your train of jeans is fading wind."

Reason enough to buy into it.

[Ahlvahroe]

i got my samurais chainstitched in americaya and i wore the hems out after about a month then i had them redone at home single stitch and have not had any problem, so i dont really see a difference between the 2.

[GregNYC]

I prefer it for the technical reasons and because it's in the spirit of old-skool denim. I don't have a photo, but have you seen jeans hemmed like cuffless slacks, with a 1.5" turned under hem, sewn in indigo thread? I become like horriblyjollyjinx's avatar when I see those!

[Dick Danger]

^^Yuppers, I totally fucked the hem on my contest jeans.

[Guest jeffvyain]

but the problem with chanistiching is that when the stich starts to come off and if you try to pull it it will do a domino effect.. and yes he has a machine called a jfa im not sure made by union

i ripped the chainstitch in a small portion of my samurais (along with the selvedge) during a little skateboard fall over winter break. i snipped the hanging thread down and haven't had a single bit of unraveling since, and i've washed twice since then. i'm not sure about the unraveling effect (i'm not going to test it) but my chainstich, even after being compromised, is still holding up very well

[Tarmac]

does the Uniqlo flagship store chainstitch? because their stock hems are chainstitched, and they do in-house hemming.

[wild style]

does the Uniqlo flagship store chainstitch? because their stock hems are chainstitched, and they do in-house hemming.

They did not chainstitch my girlfriend's jeans when she got them altered (then again she didn't ask) but I'll go with no.