Bicyclettes

[canice]

I read this thread a bit around the beginning, but now its blown out to 100 pages, so I dont want to sift through them all

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Once I get my hands on said bike, how do I go about converting the running gear?

strip off the extraneous crap like shifters and derailleurs, buy single-stack crank bolts, and shorten your chain

Do I need to buy a new fixed hub and get a mech to put it on, or do I mod the existing hub myself?

safe: new hub laced to new or existing rim

not so safe: rotafix a cog to your existing hub

The extent of my bike knowledge is basic maintenance of my hybrid and bmx's back in the day, i dont know much else. Guess i can learn as i go

in any case, you're miles ahead as far as knowledge goes, compared to the nubs in this thread. www.sheldonbrown.com and www.parktool.com/repair

[meditation]

thanks for the info canice :-) i'll try not to post again until ive made significant progress

happy riding

[mlproject]

that kiyo is so nice. glad you got to pick it up. did you sell the skyway?

[greentalks43]

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strip off the extraneous crap like shifters and derailleurs, buy single-stack crank bolts, and shorten your chain

safe: new hub laced to new or existing rim

not so safe: rotafix a cog to your existing hub

in any case, you're miles ahead as far as knowledge goes, compared to the nubs in this thread. www.sheldonbrown.com and www.parktool.com/repair

Canice, wouldnt the rotafix method be dangerous only if you are riding brakeless? i would imagine that if you are riding with a front, possibly even a rear brake it wouldnt be such a risk, right?

[knucks]

To me, safety is worth more than a new rear wheel w/ a proper hub.

[mlproject]

rotafix basically replaces a chain whip. it doesn't do anything different hwne you're riding a suicide wheel. always ride a locring on a proper track wheel. don't be retarded.

[knucks]

Well you can rotafix the opposite direction.

http://204.73.203.34/fisso/eng/schpignone.htm

I wouldn't suggest it w/o a lockring, but it can be done.

[mlproject]

the opposite way? one way tightens it and the other loosens it..

[Icicle Cubicle]

my new 60cm Keirin beast! copped it for a little over a grand built-up with all NJS components. i got lucky.

[doczein]

^^beautiful.

[canice]

my friend james has the same makino. http://velospace.org/node/1621

[Icicle Cubicle]

my friend james has the same makino. http://velospace.org/node/1621

similar, but not the same. nice though.

[Guest JonasW]

Thats going to be one sharp color scheme Icicle Cubicle.

[dokydoky]

Please tell me those lime green deep Vs are from a different bike.

[sycamore no more]

That Makino is fucking beautiful.

[Icicle Cubicle]

nah, the green v's aren't for the maki. got a pair of 36h white v's for her though. they're laced to a pair of bling-ass phil HF hubs. I wanted to go all njs, but God help me those phils glide like a keg of vagi-juice. not to mention how eyeball sex they are to look at. definitely the dior homme of track hubs. ha.

[dokydoky]

Thank goodness for that. Don't NJS rims mean you need to run tubeless tires anyway? Doesn't seem practical for the street IMO.

[vee_dub]

Alright kids...I am a lucky dude who picked up a Saronni track bike TODAY.

Spec:

Columbus Tubing, wiht cutout in lugs and BB

Suntour Hub 28 spokes laced to tub rims,

Cranks - NO IDEA..someone identify them for me.

Cinelli Stem and track bar

Saddle - I have no idea also

Pic:

Cheer,

Dub

[mlproject]

^ looks like they might be gipiemme... most of that stuff was campy copies but without branding. are there no markigns on the inside of the arms?

[brightbill]

wheelset - miche primato pista hubs, handbuilt to velocity razors with dt swiss double butted spokes. three cross rear, 2-leading-2-trailing front. cartridge bearings, eyeletted rims, perfectly true. rear has never seen a brake, front's braking surface is in excellent condition.

crankset - stronglight track 170mm, 48t ring. light, stiff, and pretty. installed on a shimano un-73 BB, the gold standard for economical performance.

tires - bontrager hardcase 23c. rediculously durable. back one was put on recently.

cog - surly 17t. and a miche lockring.

brake - ultegra 6600. fresh pads. can install a rear instead or as well, if that's your bag.

bars - profile designs air wing bullhorns. fresh cinelli tape that matches the frame paintjob. OR, i'll throw on some standard road drops with whatever brake lever you want it for the cost of bar tape, or crazypants deep, narrow, angular drop bars that are guaranteed to draw envious stares from the messengers, but you can't run a brake with them so it won't be included.

pedals - early 80s shimano clip-n-straps. smooth bearings, large steel clips (can trade for small if you like), leather straps, classy.

frame - alpha mercury. yes, it's notoriously cheap. think of it as a theft deterrent. the frame's actually decent geometry. 4130 cromo steel, same as they use for surly and IRO frames.

oh, and there's a chrome skull on the rear brake bridge. you know you want it.

^^^

Craigslist ad, I moved cross-country and need a new bike...

How does that sound? I really don't know anything about the components... what would a fair price be for it?

[or the Whale]

Thank goodness for that. Don't NJS rims mean you need to run tubeless tires anyway? Doesn't seem practical for the street IMO.

I won't even get into the practicality of riding a Keirin bike on the street; but I ride sew ups and know quite a few riders who do as well. Just be sure to keep a glued spare tucked under your saddle and a small CO2 pump in your bag. It's a shame that so many people write them off so quickly, they really aren't too terribly expensive.

Though I really should mention that my advice comes with the caveat that while I do ride brakeless I rarely skid and will be getting a drilled fork and front brake by the month's end.

[doczein]

will somebody tell me if there's an easier way to get these damned grips on.?

[canice]

what method are you trying now? i don't understand people who can't get grips on. i smashed an oury onto riser bars totally dry.

use hairspray or gel hand sanitizer.

[doczein]

well.. i didn't really use any "lube" per se. i just tried to stretch open the diameter and pull them down the handlebars... like an impossible-to-put-on sock.

so hairspray or gel hand sanitizer? where should i apply it?

[canice]

... spray it on the inside of the grip. if it's not enough to slide it on, spray on the bars too.

[knucks]

I used engine degreaser on the one that wouldn't slide on dry.

Anything liquid works, it's just better to use something that evaporates quickly. if you have a can of compressed air that works as well.

[mlproject]

rubber cement or hairspray.

rubber cement dries fast and is sticky so you don't have spinny grip for like 3 days.

[doczein]

^^thanks for the insight guys. +rep for everyone!

[chris_n]

i use a shop air compressor with tapered nozzle. goes on easy enough and stays dry so i can ride right away.

same way to take them off.

[vee_dub]

Window Cleaner..