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I recently bought jeans from ktothe. It's been around 3 weeks and I still haven't receive the jeans yet. I PM'ed him a few times but only got one reply saying he'll keep me posted. A week later, I still haven't receive the jeans nor a tracking number. I IM'ed him through AIM a few times and one day he finally answers, he says the jeans were sent back to him because he inverted my address. So he says he'll ship it out the next day. Another week past, I still don't have a tracking number or my jeans. I PM'ed him and IM'ed him but he never replied. I understand that he's a respected member here but the communication is horrible. I've checked his previous sales and it doesn't look like he's the one to scam. I'm not calling him out or anything, but I was hoping he'll read this or someone that knows him personally can ask him to give me an update on the jeans.

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probably not the right area to post this anyway, but I think it's best to get all of someone's potential means of contact before transactions so that you can exhaust every avenue before a thread like this. i know it seems like you mean no harm, but you are kind of calling him out before knowing exactly what's up. shit happens, circumstances alter cases, choose your cliche, but i would figure there is a simple explanation/solution.

doubt someone known pretty well on here would fuck over another user who could post damaging shit and fuck up future transactions.

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its not that simple.

last time he faked resolution steps for months while remaining active as a poster. he would exchange emails talking about shipping problems, promises to refund, etc. in the end he saved face in the eyes of anybody who didn't follow the whole thing though just by being empathetic, but it was all an act. hes a shark.

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^ That's what he's doing to me right now. Here's a AIM chat we had. He claims he inverted my address and was going to send out the jeans last week, I still haven't got a reply or the jeans since this AIM chat.

(8:39:20 PM): yooo man

(8:39:30 PM): what's up with the tracking number

kenny funcrusher (8:39:35 PM): hey dude

(8:39:51 PM): it's been over a week

kenny funcrusher signed off at 8:40:55 PM.

kenny funcrusher signed on at 8:41:03 PM.

(8:41:17 PM): did you get the tracking number yet?

(8:43:32 PM): yo?

kenny funcrusher signed off at 8:47:22 PM.

kenny funcrusher signed on at 8:47:30 PM.

(8:47:52 PM): yo are you there?

(8:48:59 PM): i'm going to have to file a chargeback since you're not responding

(8:49:07 PM): and i don't even know if you sent the jeans or not

kenny funcrusher signed off at 8:51:05 PM.

kenny funcrusher signed on at 8:52:34 PM.

(8:52:41 PM): yo man

(8:52:42 PM): what's going on?

kenny funcrusher signed off at 8:54:09 PM.

kenny funcrusher signed on at 8:57:12 PM.

kenny funcrusher (8:57:20 PM): il: i'm going to have to file a chargeback since you're not responding and i don't even know if you sent the jeans or not Sent at 6:01 PM on Monday : yo man what's going on? me: my connection is being flakey give me a minute i just said i just recieved the pants i havent been able to send them out a second time but i will first thing in the morning and give you another conf if you like im refunding the shipping charges so you are getting $150 pants for 60 dollars if you want to charge back then thats fine i will sell them to someone else illl did not receive your chat. You are no longer signed in to chat.

(8:57:47 PM): alright

(8:57:51 PM): you didn't send it out yet?

kenny funcrusher (8:57:59 PM): for a second time?

kenny funcrusher (8:58:01 PM): no

kenny funcrusher (8:58:02 PM): i just siad

kenny funcrusher (8:58:05 PM): i just recieved them

kenny funcrusher (8:58:08 PM): as in an hour ago

(8:58:09 PM): i can't read what you typed

(8:58:15 PM): how did you receive them again?

kenny funcrusher (8:58:23 PM): sent back from post office

(8:58:27 PM): alright

kenny funcrusher (8:58:27 PM): did you get any of my messages?

(8:58:29 PM): nah

kenny funcrusher (8:58:34 PM): i inverted your address

kenny funcrusher (8:58:37 PM): apparently

(8:58:40 PM): oh i see

(8:58:45 PM): i thought i was getting scammed...

(8:58:53 PM): well can you send it out tomorrow again?

kenny funcrusher (8:58:54 PM): i dont scam people

kenny funcrusher (8:58:58 PM): you can check my history on sufu

(8:58:59 PM): I won't file a chargeback

kenny funcrusher (8:59:04 PM): yeah no prob

(8:59:05 PM): my address is

(8:59:10 PM): west street

(8:59:14 PM): new york

kenny funcrusher (8:59:48 PM): what the hell

kenny funcrusher (8:59:51 PM): thatts what i wrote

kenny funcrusher (9:00:07 PM): oh no n/m i wrote 1122 as your zip code

kenny funcrusher (9:00:11 PM): that shouldnt have mattered though

kenny funcrusher (9:00:17 PM): anyway i'll send them out tomorrow afternoon

illlmatiic (9:00:21 PM): alright

kenny funcrusher (9:00:28 PM): sorry about the hassel

(9:00:28 PM): can you give me trackign number

(9:00:31 PM): when you send it

kenny funcrusher (9:00:32 PM): yeah for sure

(9:00:35 PM): it's all good

(9:00:39 PM): got me worried for a second

kenny funcrusher (9:00:44 PM): i understand

(9:01:15 PM): What shipping do you use?

(9:01:19 PM): usps or fedex?

kenny funcrusher signed off at 9:15:19 PM.

kenny funcrusher signed on at 9:16:11 PM.

kenny funcrusher signed off at 9:19:20 PM.

kenny funcrusher signed on at 9:19:28 PM.

kenny funcrusher signed off at 9:23:19 PM.

kenny funcrusher signed on at 9:24:34 PM.

kenny funcrusher (10:51:03 PM): i use regular express

kenny funcrusher (10:51:05 PM): usps

(10:51:25 PM): alright

(10:51:27 PM): keep me posted

(10:51:28 PM): thanks

kenny funcrusher (10:51:33 PM): no prob

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wait ! the "i inverted adress" trick is very common when you didn't have time at all to post it and don't want to have to refund. you'll get your jeans, dun worry.

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I can co-sign on ktothe being a sheisty little cunt.

Dude pulled the same shit on me where he said he sent to the wrong address, was gonna send again, was gonna send refunds that never materialized, etc etc etc.

Basically I wouldn't count on this bitch comin through with much more than endless bullshit excuses.

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Your shit will be sent out tomorrow. Or I can refund you right now. Your choice?

I've been busy.

The Scott: I dont even know who you are? Pm me.

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confirmation on kthothe as a scammer, he scammed a poster on another forum I read for a pair of jeans and has done it multiple times.

fuck you ktothe!

I have a problem with 1, or possible two people and Im a scammer? Meanwhile ive sold atleast, literally, 100 other items on this very forum.

Right.

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Ship it out tomorrow then. Can you provide a tracking number this time? Can you also give me tagged pictures of the jeans to show that you still have it?

Are you sure you just dont want me to refund you RIGHT NOW so we can skip any future bullshit threads about me scamming you?

You could have e-mailed me, or even got at me on aim. Ive been online for the past 48 hours. I dont know if you're new to sufu but you your pms dont always show up as new.

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I've AIM you quite a few times and even tried to contact you through msn. You never replied back.

This is on 5.13.08

(9:18:11 PM): yoooo

(9:18:17 PM): can i get the tracking number?

(10:27:45 PM): yooo aim me the tracking number when you see this

(10:27:46 PM): thanks

5.19.08

(6:15:14 AM): yoooo bro

(6:15:21 AM): you got the tracking number?

(6:16:24 AM): check your PMs or something man

(6:24:32 AM): why don't you ever answer on AIM man

(6:24:44 AM): PM me the tracking number on sufu or something

(6:36:19 AM): PM me what's going on with the jeans over sufu

On Msn

Date

Time

From

To

Message 5/10/2008

11:31:32 PM

saywhat

Ken

hey 5/11/2008

9:08:51 PM

saywhat

Ken

yoooooooo 5/18/2008

12:13:08 AM

saywhat

Ken

yooo 5/18/2008

1:38:27 PM

saywhat

Ken

yoooo 5/18/2008

1:38:31 PM

saywhat

Ken

lemme get the tracking number

Don't mean to call you out or anything but I've tried every way to contact you.

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Yeah its not like I didnt send them out once already.

What exactly is your interest in this? Are you the internet police? Would you like to come down to Seattle to arrest me? You're only a short 3 hour drive away, we can totally make that happen.

Go back to making nice designer clothes look really fucking bad.

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not sure if this vouches for anything but ive met ktothe in real life and the guy doesnt seem like he would have any ill intentioned ideas of scamming.

the problems he's had sounds genuinely common. I've had plenty of transaction problems, who the fuck hasnt but not everyone makes their own thread calling someone a scammer.

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I've AIM you quite a few times and even tried to contact you through msn. You never replied back.

This is on 5.13.08

(9:18:11 PM): yoooo

(9:18:17 PM): can i get the tracking number?

(10:27:45 PM): yooo aim me the tracking number when you see this

(10:27:46 PM): thanks

5.19.08

(6:15:14 AM): yoooo bro

(6:15:21 AM): you got the tracking number?

(6:16:24 AM): check your PMs or something man

(6:24:32 AM): why don't you ever answer on AIM man

(6:24:44 AM): PM me the tracking number on sufu or something

(6:36:19 AM): PM me what's going on with the jeans over sufu

I mean in no way to trivialize the seriousness of this issue.

But the above is hilarious.

"yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"

Next level.

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Is this sufficient...?

scam.jpg

Yeah, comlete with the packaging I originally sent it out in.

Just wondering why you didn't post the envelope with the inverted address, and return address on it, as well as the stamp regarding the date that it was suppose to be returned to sender. Anyone can put a pair of jeans on an envelope and say they sent them out to save face. I don't know you personally man, and tons of people vouche that you are a good dude but I'm skeptical about this one. Maybe you should double check addresses before writing it on the envelope or use the 'Print Label' function on paypal.

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