waywt? saved my life

[chronoaug]

I just think people are making an assumption that cmirsky is trying to be fashion forward and "kill it" with his outfits. Regardless of if his blank tees are AA and his shoes are thrifted or both expensive designer brands, shit doesn't look "bad". It's one thing to say that they're not worthy of discussion because them being boring or predictable. It is agreed that some people on this forum are trying to expand fashion wise and come up with really interesting and great styles (from color, proportion, brands, details, etc...) and others merely just wear very basic things. It's understood that you are trying to tell more about cmirsky from your previous knowledge of him by his posts, early fits, and general opinion on the guy. The whole "predictable sufu outfit" thing is kind of meaingless because not everyone is trying to "kill it" every time. I actually like most of jmatsu's fits, but i'm not going to pretend his skinny jeans + high tops + graphic tshirt are anything to look twice at. It's not a knock against him at all because the stuff generally fits pretty good and looks nice as an outfit but it looks similar to a lot of other people minus brands. But i think we all learned a lesson from critiquing something that jmatsu or robi does from the MJ jacket discussion; you better be prepared to spend an hour backing it up only to be ignored as having an ignorant opinion. At least jeepster has the patience and time to deal with this shit. Although i'm sure his opinion will be debunked as "worthless" rendering robi untouchable again.

[Analog]

At first glance I thought you were wearing some kind of face-mask and I was like, "whoa, still with some next-level man-in-the-iron-mask action..."

[ddohnggo]

yo that shit is s/fw/s m.a+ dead baby fetus leather mask. u didn't know????????

[Analog]

yo that shit is s/fw/s m.a+ dead baby fetus leather mask.

I wish.

[robideaux]

well, i consider myself an amateur. ive posted 2 fits, both considerably shit compared to anyone on here, i dont have money to pay for dior or cprojects or a lot of nice stuff, so i revolve around the same clothing base as cmirsky - which indicates that yes, i have a certain level of taste for my own look, but cannot afford what i'd like to achieve (the aforementioned brands). it seems you have a considerable amount of money to pay for dior and S2A and other assorted brands you rep so arrogantly, and even if you get them second-hand, their still gonna be more expensive than anything i can afford. its cause im A) younger dont have as much of a developed sense of style C) don't have the money - its not that your fits are so amazing, but the way you rep the brands gives you credit. its no hate against you, but you are only considered "fashionable" because certain people around here approve of your fits.

in honesty, if you went to a designer party, you'd get more hate for your fits than cmirsky would because you strive to make such a statement, while not even realizing, your statement is more trite and boring than cmirsky. jeans + tee shirt and nice shoes has been more fashionable than dior jacket, some fashionista boots, tsubi's, and whatever accessory you're rockin that day - historically. the quintessential NY look is white tee, black jeans, fyre boots or cons. its the way you deliver yourself is what makes it fashionable. cmirsky has a pose, he has a look, and he has an audience. you have no pose, a sorta bedraggled faux-fashionista look, and a limited audience. i have nothing against you personally, because i dont know you, but more people are going to like cmirsky for the sheer fact that he's not a wanna-be fashion set prick like yourself. your one claim to anything here is that you wear these brands, but you just come across as creepy older brother all the time. me, i come across as petulant child - as i am one. for all your "studied" look, it never comes across as sincere or very good. you can hate all you want, but the fact that you disapprove of a tried and true classic look means that you truly are the unfashionable one.

you must be destitute, because i don't make a lot of money. cmrisky wears dh, granted its the same pair everytime. anyway, your entire post is inaccurate. i wear labels a lot of people here buy, but the pieces i own i do not see many other people rocking. I don't own a dior jacket, the one i am wearing is a vintage piece from the 60's made in france by the atelier flynate. the only dh i own are a couple pair of shades which i copped for less than a pair of raybans. most other pieces i got either second hand at the supermarket or on sale. i think they were all good investments considering my limited means. and as pieces themselves i think they eclipse the connotations of their labels.

there is no "quintessential new york look." this is merely an artifact of history.

i have no pose because unlike cmrisky i'm not a narcissist. i don't fancy myself to be some sort of fun-boy fashion model. waywt is merely a form of documentation as far as i'm concerned, mainly so that i can through trial and error learn from my mistakes and improve (based of opinions/critiques that i find valid).

CMrisky takes the middle ground and because of this he doesn't evolve. you are doing him, yourself, and everyone a disservice by encouraging such formulaic mediocrity.

True art (and style derivatively) in its time has no (clearly defined or perceivable) audience. only retrospectively does it acquire one. not that i consider myself an artist, but cmrisky is definately not one and correspondinly lacks style. he merely playcates the SuFu majority which pleases people like you.

Unlike you i'm not infatuated with the NY fashion scene, and when i go to fashion events i hate even more than when i'm on this board.

[chronoaug]

I'm glad we're shifting how you're not that interesting style wise towards how boring you think cmirsky is and by saying that jeepster is obsessed with ny fashion scene. Kind of like how talks of how your red jacket outfit also fell short (yet again like most all your outfits) shifted towards a pop culture discussion. Flawless "logic." No one can touch you. Keep killing it.

[FAM0US.]

[Analog]

That's some serious clapping.

.

[Guest jmatsu]

while i don't agree with jeepster i gotta admit that his shit is usually articulate and a fun read. chronoaug no hate, but seriously i'd appreciate it if you would shut your pie-hole. i can usually stomach your grey-white AA vnecks/whatever-fits, but frankly your recent and random attempts to sound intellectual are starting to annoy me. i think the fact that famous gave you a round of applause is a great indicator.

[cmirsky]

Someone said it; I'm not trying to "kill it"....I wear the same jeans/basics just about every day, and I realize that's nothing special--never said it was.

Quit assuming that's my attitude please.

[chronoaug]

Again, like with robi, it always turns into "your opinion is worthless so stop talking". If you need to look great and unique style wise to have a voice heard, then why are we still listening to robi and yourself? I don't think his stuff is that bad, but it certainly isn't worthy of any mighty praise where his opinion should be held so high. I think your outfits generally work better, but is that what it coems to now, jmatsu? It's true though. The minute your's or robi's fits or opinions isn't highly respected, it turns into a question of character instead of actual discussion. Or we can just completely change the subject like we did with the red jacket.

I have yet to see you or robi "kill it' as you keep assuming you guys do. Don't get me wrong, i didn't have a problem with your "s2a shirt, slim jeans and high top shoes" outfit, but not only were the details of fit a bit off, it was boring. But again, it wasn't bad or anything, so no hate. I think that some people's perception of style and "fit" are coming from a lot more than the outfits themselves though.

Also, i thought you blocked fabulous a week ago. I actually respected that decision a lot at the time considering that you just got tired of him. I'm sorry that wearing a shirt that has stigma attached to it isn't as interesting as a shirt with a skull and a brand name printed on it. Never was trying to be interesting with that shirt as during the summer it's usually pretty boring. You don't post that often though, which leads me to believe that when you do post, it's of a relatively good ensemble. Too bad.

On the subject of internet intellect, i have no idea about the experiences, education and general intelligence of most board members. I've known witty, interesting people that were certainly lacking, just as i have met well educated people with the same problem. I do find it interesting though how many assumptions are made based on people discussing primarily clothes and outfits over the internet. I make them myself and i'm sure that a fair amount of them are incorrect, but i guess it's all we can go by at the moment.

edit: Whatever. Question my intellect, innate fashion sense, wardrobe, education and the worth of my opinion. It's of the utmost importance for discussing "why robi doesn't look as great as he thinks"(it seems that all the pieces are there though), and why cmirsky doesn't necessarily have to "kill it" with unique looks every day. I'm off to a small get together and when i come back hopefully you will have put me in my place and we can all move on with my life. I genuinely enjoy reading your posts, most of your outfits and will continue to do so. Carry on.

[constant struggle]

Instead argue about this

AA

MLIW shirt

APC New Cure

Vans Authentics

[jeepster]

you must be destitute, because i don't make a lot of money. cmrisky wears dh, granted its the same pair everytime. anyway, your entire post is inaccurate. i wear labels a lot of people here buy, but the pieces i own i do not see many other people rocking. I don't own a dior jacket, the one i am wearing is a vintage piece from the 60's made in france by the atelier flynate. the only dh i own are a couple pair of shades which i copped for less than a pair of raybans. most other pieces i got either second hand at the supermarket or on sale. i think they were all good investments considering my limited means. and as pieces themselves i think they eclipse the connotations of their labels.

there is no "quintessential new york look." this is merely an artifact of history.

i have no pose because unlike cmrisky i'm not a narcissist. i don't fancy myself to be some sort of fun-boy fashion model. waywt is merely a form of documentation as far as i'm concerned, mainly so that i can through trial and error learn from my mistakes and improve (based of opinions/critiques that i find valid).

CMrisky takes the middle ground and because of this he doesn't evolve. you are doing him, yourself, and everyone a disservice by encouraging such formulaic mediocrity.

True art (and style derivatively) in its time has no (clearly defined or perceivable) audience. only retrospectively does it acquire one. not that i consider myself an artist, but cmrisky is definately not one and correspondinly lacks style. he merely playcates the SuFu majority which pleases people like you.

Unlike you i'm not infatuated with the NY fashion scene, and when i go to fashion events i hate even more than when i'm on this board.

hold on im stretching for this one...

i dont assume everyone has money here - in fact i know it. cmirsky proves it - thats why he only wears that one pair of dh's. i already know your wear labels most people here wear, and i said that if you were reading properly. im not making sweeping generalizations, im calling you out for all the hate that you pile on. for all of it, you offer nothing constructive to the community, you just hate. what im trying to point out, for all your so-called "fashion analysis" and thrift-mentality, you can't put an outfit together.

you said that " there is no "quintessential new york look." this is merely an artifact of history." and "True art (and style derivatively) in its time has no (clearly defined or perceivable) audience. only retrospectively does it acquire one." and that i am obsessed with the NY scene. sure, i love NY just as much as the next kid who's lived in CT in a ad-hoc suburb of manhattan for my entire life, but you fail to realise that new york has had a look and an audience (art and style) for ever. since the time when fashion designers first moved into the city to set up shop, there has always been art and style, combining to produce some of the best artists of the last centure, warhol, lichtenstein, etc. etc. - so saying im obsessed with the NY scene is like someone being obsessed with the paris scene? when we are in the general presence of fashion, we tend to gravitate towards it. i am intrinsically linked to NY due to my proximity, so it is my base of knowledge. but that does not mean that i dont know about the wider world of fashion. art has always existed everywhere, and theres always been an audience. the audience grows over time as new generations discover it. so by saying that warhol wasn't hot in the 60's is like saying kurt cobain was only important after he died - wrong: the succeeding generations only reinforced the fact that they were indicative of a time period and a fashion. thats why they are lasting, because their fashion is lasting.

cmirsky's fit does not enforce a standard of mediocrity - it enforces the concept that fashion does not have to be thrift mentality or secondhand goods that you cop'd 4 cheap. you claim not to be a narcissist, but you love to comment on others and "hate" because it makes you feel much better about yourself. in a sense, you're just a bully, dishing it out, but not taking it. i may not be as fashionable, but im cultured, and i know what is lasting art, style, and look, and what isn't. what you try to pull off will just serve to remind the rest of us that though it may be named, or it may be thrift, mediocrity comes in the guise of a true poseur who thinks that his looks are "documentation" rather than exhibitionism. you just continue to prove that you haven't learned shit on this board, and back it up by saying that art and style only gathers an audience after its time.

and for the sheer fact that you go to fashion events and are even more brutal with your critique brings it all home even more. you are so caught up in your concept of what is and what isn't fashionable that you make the greatest style faux-pa - you start to believe your own bullshit.

[fadingblue]

xpost from regular waywt:

cardi

white tee

shorts

slipons

[Liberation1945]

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn...youd think niggas on here were writin for vogue or elle or some shit

<clipse> EUGH </clipse>

ya'll should start a fashion zine or some shit

[oOmegaOo]

Finger Olypmics 2007, buy your tickets here.

[un-]

[ddohnggo]

i have an overwhelming feeling of deja vuuuuuuu

[wEstSidE]

hai guyz i were cluthingz can i b in diz convo PLLLZZZZZ???

[Guest jmatsu]

Again, like with robi, it always turns into "your opinion is worthless so stop talking". If you need to look great and unique style wise to have a voice heard, then why are we still listening to robi and yourself? I don't think his stuff is that bad, but it certainly isn't worthy of any mighty praise where his opinion should be held so high. I think your outfits generally work better, but is that what it coems to now, jmatsu? It's true though. The minute your's or robi's fits or opinions isn't highly respected, it turns into a question of character instead of actual discussion. Or we can just completely change the subject like we did with the red jacket.

I have yet to see you or robi "kill it' as you keep assuming you guys do. Don't get me wrong, i didn't have a problem with your "s2a shirt, slim jeans and high top shoes" outfit, but not only were the details of fit a bit off, it was boring. But again, it wasn't bad or anything, so no hate. I think that some people's perception of style and "fit" are coming from a lot more than the outfits themselves though.

Also, i thought you blocked fabulous a week ago. I actually respected that decision a lot at the time considering that you just got tired of him. I'm sorry that wearing a shirt that has stigma attached to it isn't as interesting as a shirt with a skull and a brand name printed on it. Never was trying to be interesting with that shirt as during the summer it's usually pretty boring. You don't post that often though, which leads me to believe that when you do post, it's of a relatively good ensemble. Too bad.

On the subject of internet intellect, i have no idea about the experiences, education and general intelligence of most board members. I've known witty, interesting people that were certainly lacking, just as i have met well educated people with the same problem. I do find it interesting though how many assumptions are made based on people discussing primarily clothes and outfits over the internet. I make them myself and i'm sure that a fair amount of them are incorrect, but i guess it's all we can go by at the moment.

edit: Whatever. Question my intellect, innate fashion sense, wardrobe, education and the worth of my opinion. It's of the utmost importance for discussing "why robi doesn't look as great as he thinks"(it seems that all the pieces are there though), and why cmirsky doesn't necessarily have to "kill it" with unique looks every day. I'm off to a small get together and when i come back hopefully you will have put me in my place and we can all move on with my life. I genuinely enjoy reading your posts, most of your outfits and will continue to do so. Carry on.

i've had random debates with random members here and you're the only one who actually bores me/makes me tired (maybe a couple others ala famous). like i mentioned i don't agree with everything jeepster has to say, but i can somewhat respect his e-character/and find his opinions worth actually debating. thus i personally, wouldn't want him to stfu. this goes for other members i don't agree with and even a couple i loathe (the ones who are obviously insane,stupid,boring are the ones who'd i like to silence). your opinion may be of some worth (to some), but i just don't care anymore. maybe it's just your delivery/execution or the way you write. it's not like i haven't heard the same (or similar) song and dance before. it's just that i don't wanna do karaoke with you... sorry, but you're just kinda boring. call this a copout if you want.

[jeepster]

hai guyz i were cluthingz can i b in diz convo PLLLZZZZZ???

haha westside. i loven you and your crazy antics. you're like a human /b shit thread. its glorious.

i'd give you rape, but im out right now

[wEstSidE]

so tht meenz i kan tk bout cluthingz?

i lyk wear expansive cluthingz cucz they look good!!!!

i envy suxxdixxx buyin power niggga got everythin dunno how he pays da billz

[chmercer]

just gotta skip the child support bro

[jeepster]

so tht meenz i kan tk bout cluthingz?

i lyk wear expansive cluthingz cucz they look good!!!!

i envy suxxdixxx buyin power niggga got everythin dunno how he pays da billz

4 tru? eye b pruty pore mos o the tyme, but i m4k3 doo by proztitutone. | cop lik m4d csh form old4 foolz hoo <3 bj, hj, tj, and zj. if u knw zj, u prolly cnat afordit. LOLZ BEERFEAST REFRANCE.

[majikero]

[mojinho]

i love the inherent assumption that people try to "kill it" with their fits. it never even crossed my mind that this was a COMPETITION. i just post whatever i wear, period. i guess i tend to post more on days where i really like it, but otherwise it's really not connected to trying to "improve" or anything. don't we all have pretty healthy egos already? seems like this is where all this is coming from.

PEACE

[seksu!]

^ur fits suk das why

[mojinho]

^ur fits suk das why

thanks, seksu. honestly, i just want opinions like this, not rankings. otherwise we'd all be dressing the same just to please each other, and i don't think the forum would be very interesting that way.

[seksu!]

^

ur fits suk das why

[mojinho]

^

ur fits suk das why

thank you for your constructive opinoin, although i'm curious as to what you think is so horrible about them. basically i just wear jeans and t-shirts. please bear in mind where i live . . . and how inappropriate and ridiculous fancy northern designer clothes are in this environment/climate.