Saint Laurent Denim

[unouomedude]

Now that Hedi Slimane, the father of Dior Homme, is at the helm of Yves Saint Laurent, their new denim line is quite interesting. Heres some pics of their new denim line that can be purchased at YSL's online store.

Black Raw MIJ 17.5cm $695

Black Raw MIJ 19cm $450

Indigo Raw MIJ 17.5cm $450

Edited October 19, 2012 by unouomedude

[bubbew]

Would love to see some decent fit pics, the ones in the campaign are so hard to really catch a great view of the fit..

[darkknight]

Edited October 4, 2012 by darkknight

[darkknight]

[darkknight]

[AriGold]

Can't wait...

Looks like Hedi is back! woo hoo.

Are the jeans Selvage?

[min2max]

^ well it would appear so, the site has a section called "Saint Laurent Selvage" and also "Saint Laurent Skinny"

my guess is the slim 100% cotton will be selvage and the skinny with elastane will not

and btw those measurements in the first post are false, the slim are 17.5cm but the skinny are 16cm (!!!)

one last thing i was at YSL flagship yesterday hoping to cop a pair but they won't be out until January (online is pre-order only)

Edited October 4, 2012 by min2max

[unouomedude]

^ they're not wrong. there is a black skinny pair thats 16cm but its not raw

[min2max]

my bad! i didn't see the 19cm straight leg, they weren't up on the site when i checked 24h ago

[Sway_P]

i want the light denim really bad and that blk zip hoodie

Edited October 5, 2012 by Sway_P

[darkknight]

personally, i hate plain back pockects. dior darts look much better and i don't really like the new signature detail either. also, $700 for 17.5cm raws????? fuck that.

[min2max]

..funny i'm the exact opposite, i find the darts are so played out and tacky, this is a much cleaner design, if you also factor in the denim is selvage as opposed to DH that kind of explains the price increase (of course its overpriced but were talking ysl not apc)

[unouomedude]

I'm with dark knight. The small pockets + scar is unique. Oversized pockets on slim cuts is so played out

[darkknight]

darts are played out if you spend your life on fashion forums, but where else do you see back pocket darts in real life? i see those same plain pockets everyday.

Edited October 8, 2012 by darkknight

[djrajio]

This is gay.

[mr.invincible]

with that price mark,

http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=2297&category_id=&manufacturer_id=8&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1

craft over label.

[min2max]

darts are played out if you spend your life on fashion forums, but where else do you see back pocket darts in real life? i see those same plain pockets everyday.

i guess it's all relative to where you live...here in paris the dart pockets were a pretty common sight...in 2006..

[darkknight]

paris, texas? werd? well it's 2012 now anyways.

[cander49]

with that price mark,

http://blueingreenso...uemart&Itemid=1

craft over label.

I hereby call out the morons that gave this negative rep. If the new SL denim is like Dior denim, the quality will be NOWHERE NEAR something like Oni. I've had 2 pairs of Dior raws. The first pair, two of the belt loops literally just unraveled and came off, and the second pair, I was blowing out a hole in the knee within a couple months in addition to having the outseam (non-selvedge) start to unravel. Paying out the ass for Hedi's raw denim is stupid. If you're into a specific wash, you could have a justification for buying it, because nobody has the exact same washes that he makes, but the raw is unjustifiable. The quality is not very good and sure, the fits are good, but they're not even close to unique anymore. That Oni pair is constructed with far more attention to detail (stuff like copper rivets and thick leather patches actually makes a difference), much higher durability, natural indigo, an extra slubby weave that gives the denim excellent character, etc. The Dior pair is constructed with moderate-at-best quality denim. You're paying for scars when you buy Dior raw. What are you paying for when you buy SL raws? And how about this: instead of, or in addition to neg-repping me, explain your position of negging someone who stated that quality is more important than the brand-name on the tag inside the jeans. Oh, and just FYI, I do wear Dior Homme clothes, just not their raw denim.

Edited October 9, 2012 by cander49

[darkknight]

yea, dior raws were really meant to be more the going out, stylish fit raw denim that you'd wear once a week with a blazer or something, rather than the durable/workwear raw denim you'd wear everyday to get awesome fades (even tho they were known for getting some pretty sick fades). i only liked the black mij raw denim. the indigo denim with the yellow stitching never appealed to me.

Edited October 9, 2012 by darkknight

[grooveholmes]

Ok if you really must know... The problem I have with making these kinds of arguments is that is tired and obvious that on this forum, there are plenty of options once you get to a certain price point. It's not a knock on any particular brand's quality in comparison. On a thread that involves the name Slimane, it's practically a given that you're not paying for the particular quality that goes into some of the incredible brands available, but there are certainly other reasons why someone would. It's Slimane-- it's a no brainer-- it's going to be more expensive because of the name. Most of the folks who wear Dior know this, so what's the big fucking deal if they want to spend their money on it? I wouldn't, and like you, I have a few non-denim pieces, but we could easily make this thread into "what else we could buy at BIG or SE for $600+". And if if we're really into slinging dicks, we can compare my Roy's to his Oni's, and then some asshole will come along and tell us we're all "gay" for spending even $100 on a pair of jeans when we could be spending it on something a lot more practical and "worthy". This is hyperbole, but the fact that someone would want to pay $400 for those hideous Balanciaga sweatshirts is beyond me, but I understand why. Sure, they're hand embellished or some rubbish like that, but I'd rather buy 5 x $80 Mister Freedom tees that're silk-screened by hand. The point is, we're all fanboys (and gals) of denim, and if people are going to spend several hundred dollars on designer/premium clothing, I certainly understand the diverse reasons why they would.

[LC_Miey]

^ This.

I log in just to rep you grooveholmes.

Edited October 10, 2012 by LC_Miey

[min2max]

paris, texas? werd? well it's 2012 now anyways.

no the other paris lol.. (location is a joke reference to the 1984 movie)

as for the "debate" yes it's utterly silly to even begin to compare dior/hedi denim to japanese repro's & such, doesn't mean there isn't room for both. i'll wear my dior & balmain once or twice a month when i'm in hard swag pimp mode at the club/show/downtown gallery expo. 95% rest of the time i'll be creasing and spilling drinks at the dive bar in my LVC/Jap denim rotation..

[darkknight]

Edited October 15, 2012 by darkknight

[bill]

(bump)

they are in stores

any reviews or fit pics?

[Potsnu]

I'm having a hard time figuring out if these are the same jeans. Ssense does have a tendency of marking up items a lot...

http://www.ssense.com/men/product/saint_laurent/indigo_blue_raw_selvage_jeans/66937

http://www.luisaviaroma.com/index.aspx?#getData.aspx|CallType=Product&prodId=7Q621&des=25Z&cat=&gender=men&group=&vendorColor=NDA2Nw==&season=actual&seasProdID=57I

The difference on Luisa is that they state it's made in Italy vs MIJ....

So that leads me to believe there's raw in MIJ and MII?

[teardrop explodes]

Luisa's also say their's are 17.5 but i noticed the 17.5 raws are no longer on the YSL site [they only have 19 or 16]. pretty interested to see the fit on the 17.5, as i'd be very interested in picking up a pair of MIJ ones. i've been wearing dior raw 19cm's for years, but i'm really over the stacking. from what i've seen of the saint laurent ones, they have a shorter inseam.

also confused as to whether the 17.5 will actually be zip or button fly.

Edited January 25, 2013 by teardrop explodes

[neonrider]

19cm = "straight". available in selvage at a hefty premium.

17.5 = "slim".

16cm = "skinny". these are really (really) skinny.

19cm, 17.5 cm = button fly.

16 cm = zip fly.

the inseam is shorter than diors, but not by a great deal. the ssense fit pics are misleading. stacking haters will not like slp denim.

the fit is generally like diors, but lower, narrower, and slimmer. the denim seems to be thinner but finer. the impression i get is that they're like a streamlined, more severe, cleaner version of what came before. die-hard slimane lovers will probably love them, those who have moved on into anatomical cuts probably won't.

the boutiques seem to be pretty clueless (if very nice) about all the above, the variety of denim seems to be confusing them.

i can post more thoughts later for those that are interested.

Edited January 26, 2013 by neonrider

[teardrop explodes]

^ Thanks a lot man. Would definitely be interested in finding out more.

From what you can gather, is the sizing the same as Dior's, ie. if I wear a 28 in Dior's would I still be a 28 in SLP? Unfortunately, I may not get the chance to try them on beforehand, as I don't know who in Australia will be stocking them. It also seems that the YSL website won't ship to Aus, and luisa doesn't seem to have the 17.5 MIJ black raws

[ialex]

19cm = "straight". available in selvage at a hefty premium.

17.5 = "slim".

16cm = "skinny". these are really (really) skinny.

19cm, 17.5 cm = button fly.

16 cm = zip fly.

the inseam is shorter than diors, but not by a great deal. the ssense fit pics are misleading. stacking haters will not like slp denim.

the fit is generally like diors, but lower, narrower, and slimmer. the denim seems to be thinner but finer. the impression i get is that they're like a streamlined, more severe, cleaner version of what came before. die-hard slimane lovers will probably love them, those who have moved on into anatomical cuts probably won't.

the boutiques seem to be pretty clueless (if very nice) about all the above, the variety of denim seems to be confusing them.

i can post more thoughts later for those that are interested.

thanks a lot man, these sales reps are absolutely clueless... i bought a pair of the selvedge thinking they were supposed to be slim(17.5) but these are straight fit. Anyhow I am still waiting on them to get more slims(17.5), apparently they are sold out just about everywhere and the moment any 17.5 seems to come in they all just fly off the shelves