making denim on small looms?

[batorizer]

I was looking at looms on ebay and got interested in weaving fabric. Does anyone know if these smaller looms such as this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8286230170 would be able to produce denim? just throwing it out there to see if any of ya'll know.

[mizanation]

you're going to need at least 4 harnesses to weave denim. rigid heddle looms are 2 harness.

http://mizanation.blogspot.com

[batorizer]

Thanks for the reply, miz. is rigid heddle a term for looms or does it have to do with a brand? what type of loom has 4 harnesses?

[batorizer]

alright, i was doing some looking around on wikipedia and some other places. I think i'm figuring some things out. Correct me if i'm wrong:

A rigid heddle loom is a type of loom that has 2 harnesses or shafts. A loom with only two harnesses is only capable of producing a "plain weave", which means that the warp and weft threads are 1:1. To make a twill fabric, like denim, there needs to be at least a 2:1 ratio, which will give the diagonal pattern. With four harnesses, there can be three sets of warp threads up and one set down. As the weft makes passes, one harness is moved up and another is moved down, always having 3 up and 1 down.

This is probably closer to what i would need to make denim:

http://cgi.ebay.com/24-Wide-4-Harness-Leclerc-Table-Loom_W0QQitemZ8285659537QQcategoryZ57741QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

that's all for now, i'm back to digging for more information. any input would be great.

[salaami]

this is very intriguing. when i get older, i want to grow some cotton, spinn it myself by hand, grow my own indigo plants for sukumo dye, and make my own jeans from dead scratch(hank-dipped like 30 times)woven by myself on my own 4-harness loom, on a union special... itll take me forever, but i wont sell them, ill give them away to selected heads who will appreciate them . itll keep me occupied in my golden years, and the grandkids out of my hair, cause ill have their little asses spinning, and dipping yarn...

[Dex_star]

ur weird man

[Charlie Delta]

^ whatever, I want to be one of those "selected heads" who get given a pair of his made from scratch jeans when I'm older toooooooo!

[Chicken]

gordon told me about this handloom japan blue has in which they weave some of their denim with.

(scroll down for pics.)

[mizanation]

i would love to get a loom. but my wife already told me she'd kill me if i put one in the living room. i started to grow my own woad plants (for indigo) but they all died. my wife rejoiced. my dream is actually to weave my own hemp denim. great for the environment and stronger than cotton.

[Chicken]

do i hear another project coming up?

[beatle]

Miz - just put the keyboard in the kitchen - and loom away...

Seriously though - before you start growing hemp and weave your own denim , I want to see that record released..."The corner"....

[Charlie Delta]

do i hear another project coming up?

Awesome!

Whatever it is, I'm in!

I can sew and have made jeans before!!!

edit: I guess Chicken meant, a personal project for Miz, while I was thinking something along the lines of him making denim at home and several Sufu handy people making jeans out of it. Now that would be a project I'd have to be part of...

[mizanation]

so much stuff to do, so little time!

[coleslawyum]

Holy shit miz, you must've been high to have beatle catch you in all your wifebeater glory. When's the new album droppin' son?

[mizanation]

whenever i start making time for anything other than making money...