The Beatles vs. The Rolling Stones

[landho]

Wouldn't mind seeing John Lennon and Mick Jagger in a "Beat It"-style knife fight (where one's wrist would be tied to the other's and the two fight until one dies).

[Fookums]

has anyone done the cure vs. the smiths?

There was that one Smiths thread that devolved into a Cure vs. Smiths one.

All this shit is lame anyways.

Real band battle is N'Sync vs. Backstreet Boys.

(Even if that was already covered in Celebrity Deathmatch)

[cjbreed]

on the rare occasion i get stoned, i listen to that rush song about the manhattan project. it is fucking hysterical and they are so earnest, it's hard not to laugh.

how about duran duran vs. depeche mode? has anyone done the cure vs. the smiths?

depeche mode even though the lyrics are sometimes laughably bad.

"people are people so why should it be

you and i should get along so awfully"

oh....dear.

but they're a very influential band in modern rock

and cure vs. smiths is genuinely a tough one

[landho]

depeche mode even though the lyrics are sometimes laughably bad.

"people are people so why should it be

you and i should get along so awfully"

oh....dear.

but they're a very influential band in modern rock

and cure vs. smiths is genuinely a tough one

Listening to Johnny Cash cover "Personal Jesus" made me cringe with embarrassment.

[kunk75]

though i should be, i am not ashamed to admit i've seen depeche mode 26 times, was president of the fan club for a short time and was in a DM cover band for 4 years.

i fucking hate that people always correlate duran duran with being some seminal new wave band while dm has sold 75 million records. no bias here.

Listening to Johnny Cash cover "Personal Jesus" made me cringe with embarrassment.

[cjbreed]

"words are very unnecessary, they can only do harm"

what? yeah if you are the one using them...

i mean what a dumb thing to say, but gosh it rhymes so well....

sorry we are off topic.

Paul would kick Jagger's skinny ass. Assuming he gave up the whole non-violence / peace thing...

EDIT - oh shit....sorry kunk. i made a joke a dm's expense. i love em. honest

[kunk75]

it's ok. blasphemous rumours has classically dreadful lyrics, as does anything on the first 3 albums:

Leave In Silence

"If I only had a potion or some magical lotion, i could stop this, i could set the wheels in motion."

huh?

"words are very unnecessary, they can only do harm"

what? yeah if you are the one using them...

i mean what a dumb thing to say, but gosh it rhymes so well....

sorry we are off topic.

Paul would kick Jagger's skinny ass. Assuming he gave up the whole non-violence / peace thing...

EDIT - oh shit....sorry kunk. i made a joke a dm's expense. i love em. honest

[landho]

I'm Asian, so you know I've listened to more than my fair share of Depeche Mode, New Order, Erasure, et al.

[kunk75]

haha. that's true. new order is prolly the best band who have gone the kind of transformation they did., i.e., death of ian curtis.

[andewhall]

Wild Horse's couldn't Sway me from the Moonlight Mile of Brown Sugar.

[sarcasticone]

^^^^^^^Is he wearing grifters?

[Leonard Leroy]

oh wow, we're actually arguing this

fucking beatles man, no contest 4 me but i'm a young whippersnapper what do i know

[midnight]

stones, if not for the music, for the fact mick still wears skeenee pantz.

[cash]

I'm just saying what CJBreed beat me to:

I’d rather listen to the Stones. They are perfect at what they do, and they do it with attitude to spare. The Beatles, however, are the more important band. More original/artistic. The Beatles invented Pop Music. The Stones just mined their record collections.

It’s a shame Paul grew up to be a flabby twit. I, for one, am glad we never got the Great John Lennon Comeback Tour, tabloid divorce or Super Bowl appearance.

Oh, also, John, even strung out, would kick the holy shit out of Mick. John was a poor, orphaned street-fighting thug. Straight-up Swinging-'60s Gangsta.

[kunk75]

my litmus test at the end of the day is would i go out of my way to listen to something. there are occasions during which i put on a stones album. beatles, never, though i don't go out of my way to turn them off either.

[cjbreed]

here's one

lou reed (including velvet underground) vs. david bowie

[kunk75]

both overrated but bowie easily for me.

[Leonard Leroy]

Bowie for me

[cjbreed]

kunk - well...there is no depeche mode without joy division. there is no joy division without velvet underground.

every independent, underground band (regardless of genre) was launched by velvet underground

[landho]

Lou Reed's solo career was adventurous but ultimately unremarkable. Bowie, on the other hand, made numerous canonical records. (John Cale's solo career is better than Lou Reed's, I think, and the best stuff either of them did was in collaboration with each other.)

Also, Bowie collaborated with numerous super important musicians, like Iggy Pop, Brian Eno, and Mott the Hoople. He was everywhere.

[kunk75]

yes, i can appreciate/respect without truly enjoying, i.e., sonic youth.

i'm a hopeless case as I literally only listen to like 10-12 bands/artists. I have about 150 albums while my wife prolly has 1750 or so.

kunk - well...there is no depeche mode without joy division. there is no joy division without velvet underground.

every independent, underground band (regardless of genre) was launched by velvet underground

[sarcasticone]

Bowie by a mile.

Also, don't forget to add Luther Vandross to the list of musicians Bowie has collaborated with.

[cjbreed]

Lou Reed's solo career was adventurous but ultimately unremarkable. Bowie, on the other hand, made numerous canonical records. (John Cale's solo career is better than Lou Reed's, I think, and the best stuff either of them did was in collaboration with each other.)

Also, Bowie collaborated with numerous super important musicians, like Iggy Pop, Brian Eno, and Mott the Hoople. He was everywhere.

true. and it could be argued that reed was imitating bowie at some points in his career. (transformer was co-produced by bowie) and reed is darker for sure. but c'mon, his solo career wasn't bad: "walk on the wild side" "dirty blvd"??? shiiit

[cjbreed]

Also, don't forget to add Luther Vandross to the list of musicians Bowie has collaborated with.

and bing crosby

and nine inch nails

and the arcade fire

[eldave04]

turn up the stones

[cash]

i'm a hopeless case as I literally only listen to like 10-12 bands/artists. I have about 150 albums while my wife prolly has 1750 or so.

Generally I'm more impressed with small record collections than large ones. It requires much better taste to put together 150 great albums than 1,750 albums. That just takes money.

But back to the topic: Bowie is better. He also did his fair share of altering and influencing the pop-culture landscape.

[landho]

true. and it could be argued that reed was imitating bowie at some points in his career. (transformer was co-produced by bowie) and reed is darker for sure. but c'mon, his solo career wasn't bad: "walk on the wild side" "dirty blvd"??? shiiit

Sure, Lou Reed has some awesome solo stuff--"Satellite of Love," Berlin (actually like this! [kind of]), etc.--but none of it even comes close to Bowie's best stuff, like Ziggy Stardust, Low, "Heroes," etc. Even love the second-tier Bowie stuff like Young Americans, Station to Station, Let's Dance, The Man Who Saved the World.... And throw in the fact that he wrote like nine songs on Lust for Life, and Jesus, you have one of the best musical careers in pop history.

Although I will echo the sentiment that everything "left of the dial" basically stemmed from The Velvet Underground. I think that The Beatles are the most influential act in pop-music history with The Velvet Underground second behind them. (Dylan is probably third.)

[cjbreed]

But back to the topic: Bowie is better. He also did his fair share of altering and influencing the pop-culture landscape.

oh way more than his share. he's incredible.

i love reed and bowie and it is impossible to choose between the two, but i like to hear what people have to say

oh yeah and he collaborated with mick jagger

and tina turner

and stevie ray vaughan

[broneck]

here's one

lou reed (including velvet underground) vs. david bowie

funny, i was considering doing a followup to this that was freddy mercury vs. david bowie

[landho]

funny, i was considering doing a followup to this that was freddy mercury vs. david bowie

A friend of mine said that those were the number-one and number-two male vocalists in pop-music history, respectively.