QUALITY suits

[poliopoliopolio]

i have to go to a funeral this weekend and thus need an OTR suit ASAP. but i figure since i should have a suit that fits me anyways, i may as well get a nice one (none of this Zara, H&M shit). can anyone give me pricepoints on the usual suspects (dior, jil sander, black/purple label, dolce, etc.)? input as to quality would be appreciated as well.

i'd probably have to wear this to use this for work stuff, too, so no 1-button all black, shiny-lapel/drop-crotch knee-length jacket with leg o'mutton sleeve avant garde shit. just standard, minimal, etc. etc. i tried searching but honestly don't have time to look for pricing on all of it. anyone?

[kunk75]

sorry. i'm going to a funeral tomorrow. jil sander is vg in fit and quality, but of the designer suits, prada is up there, as they use very good fabric from traditional suit makers like issaia.

[poliopoliopolio]

do you have an idea how much they're going to run me?

[poliopoliopolio]

nevermind, this has a pretty good rundown on prices:

http://men.style.com/theupgrader/style/gray-suits/Maison-Martin-Margiela

but quality comments always appreciated.

[djrajio]

Suits off the rack that I like

Ralph Lauren - newer versions have a more European cut. The cloth and cut is well done for the price.

Richard James - again, more of a Saville Row cut but nice but more business rather than formal/funeral.

Dior - suits are very well made despite what people will tell you but yes the quality has been skimmed for later years than pre-05.

Jil Sander - greater quality but the cut is a bit too "rigid"

Dolce Gabbana - these are actually quite well made for the price. The trick is to get one on sale for half price, etc. The cut and cloth is more "Italian"...

Of all the suits recommended, I'd grab the Ralph Laurens, especially if its formal, they might be discounted/on sale and the cut in recent years is pretty European, i.e. slim but not overly so.

[constant struggle]

if you can find ralph lauren black label - i think its the slimmest of the RL ones and yet could still be used for work

[poliopoliopolio]

thanks for the recs. i'm just pissed that i have to buy one right now after all the sales came and went. i'll check out the ralph lauren stuff at lunch.

[djrajio]

sorry. i'm going to a funeral tomorrow. jil sander is vg in fit and quality, but of the designer suits, prada is up there, as they use very good fabric from traditional suit makers like issaia.

You don't know shit. Prada has all many of their suits made in China and then "finished" in Italy. The quality is pretty bad for the price.

[constant struggle]

thanks for the recs. i'm just pissed that i have to buy one right now after all the sales came and went. i'll check out the ralph lauren stuff at lunch.

let us know how it goes, i'm really in the market for a new navy suit

[kunk75]

You don't know shit. Prada has all many of their suits made in China and then "finished" in Italy. The quality is pretty bad for the price.

my aunt is one of their brand managers so i guess she don't know shit. you're a fucking expert?

[kunk75]

the "quality" issue is getting totally out of hand. are people jello wrestling in their suits or horseback riding? wtf

[mrjameskent]

well i always find myself walking past Kilgour and Spencer Hart and wishing i needed a suit!

probably only helpful if your in London, but two tailors I'd love to wear.

[kunk75]

oh, and is it all or many? choose one.

tried a dior suit in the last few years? great "quality".

[polishmike]

This is bad timing but you should see if you can find Rag & Bone. I was looking at some of their suits and they are very nice and under $1000 (jacket around $525, trousers $275). It might be hard to find something in black but if you try every stocklist in town you might get lucky.

[kunk75]

varvatos could work, too. often on sale at c21 and such. i have one and it's held up pretty well. pretty well cut for american stuff.

[fndmybetterhalf]

the "quality" issue is getting totally out of hand. are people jello wrestling in their suits or horseback riding? wtf

dont be stupid. if im gonna spend 1000+ on a well constructed quality suit, i expect it to last me a long time.

[kunk75]

no agreed. but there's a range. have to manage expectations in the $800-$1200 range.

But yeah, at like $1800+ I expect more.

just saying, everybody's like quality, quality, quality, but for the most part have you really ever had good shit go to pieces?

[datasupa]

kunk's point is somewhat valid. i've never seen nor heard of a suit actually falling apart, regardless of the price, regardless of how old it is (unless worn by a homeless person). basically all you're going to be doing in it is sitting or standing around on occasion. i'd worry more about cut and the hand of the cloth over durability.

[constant struggle]

kunk's point is somewhat valid. i've never seen nor heard of a suit actually falling apart, regardless of the price, regardless of how old it is (unless worn by a homeless person). basically all you're going to be doing in it is sitting or standing around on occasion. i'd worry more about cut and the hand of the cloth over durability.

yeah so you want a shitty suit that the fabric is going to look horrible after 10 wears?

who wants that, no one

[kunk75]

again, just saying for $1000 don't expect the moon. a lot in that range are glued. i think a lot of people think a grand for a suit is crazy, but i've seen a big step up in quality when you get to the $1800-$2500 range from <$1000.

[Fuuma]

Isaia is a good suggestions, as is RL (although I personnally dislike his stuff) and Dolce. Other Italian cuts that are pretty good: Borelli, Attolini. You could also check out the Paul Smith mainline and London (more business) offerings.

Some designer suits that deliver IMHO:

Margiela line 14

Jil Sander (tailor made line)

[Fuuma]

You don't know shit. Prada has all many of their suits made in China and then "finished" in Italy. The quality is pretty bad for the price.

I'm not going to disagree with you overall but Prada offers suits at various quality levels and I've seen some that are fully canvassed, had some handwork and high quality (and hard to get) wools. The price points are of the 2.5-3.5K variety.

[poliopoliopolio]

i ended up running over to saks on my lunch and getting a pretty basic dolce suit. it was actually relatively inexpensive. i tried on a jil sander suit i liked but there was something about the color that put me off. tried on some paul smith that were ok, a gucci that i hated, and some others. i wanted to try on the black label but they didn't have my size in any mourning/business-appropriate shades. i'll post pics when i get a chance. thanks for all the help!

[datasupa]

I'm not going to disagree with you overall but Prada offers suits at various quality levels and I've seen some that are fully canvassed, had some handwork and high quality (and hard to get) wools. The price points are of the 2.5-3.5K variety.

heh. "i'm not going to disagree with you, but you're wrong"

[kunk75]

funny shit. but he's right

[Fuuma]

heh. "i'm not going to disagree with you, but you're wrong"

You're misquoting me; I said "overall" which means I agree with what he said but mentioned some exceptions that are really not that common considering the breath of Prada offerings and salespoints.

Oh and my funeral suit is also a Dolce (black, 2 buttons, singled breasted, 1 vent)

[peteyross]

Of the suits I've own(ed), I like the following the best:

RL Black Label

Paul Smith Main Line

Paul Stuart ("Paul" fit, now under the Phineas line)

Eredi Pisano

Sartoria Castangia

Raffaele Caruso

Costume National Homme (fully canvassed version)

[Nonn8tive]

i've been looking into suits as well since im going to be graduating this yr.

any thoughts on suits from Raf or Patrik Ervell?? I like the suits made by jil sander...never had the opportunity to try on any dior suits.

[poopie boy]

why is sluts a tag for this thread?

[poliopoliopolio]

i ended up getting the dolce suit. pretty basic/boring, but met my needs:

thanks for all the help!