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i tried to get c0c0 to meet me on the corner of 180th and Amsterdam to get some chimichurri but she wouldn't have it... i even offered to pay.

She turned down free chimichurri .. with you? That's one hell of a crazy woman right there.

i'm guilty of making some slimey public commentary toward female members, but i've never ever pmmed one. infact i've only actually met up with 3 actual members (2 male, one female).

Now that I think about it .. I've only PM'd one to inquire about an item being sold. Most likely because I feel like they get enough attention on here.

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normally i don't bother to argue on the internet because i frankly don't care if anyone changes their opinion after something i've posted. but your post was so full of faulty pseudo-arguments that i couldn't resist.

datasupa, if you are a female, this comment might be of some relevance.

my gender has no effect on the truth of what i wrote.

let's say a member is a jew. no one makes fun of that jewish member, but constantly barrage the boards with jew jokes and the objectificaion of jews. would this be okay since that particular jewish member wasn't specifically targetted?

first of all, the threads objectifying women don't make fun of women...they lust after them. what exactly does 'objectification of jews' mean??? is that a thread that lusts after jewish boobs and ass? i actually suspect that would be ok, except it would almost certainly be satirical. so your analogy is flawed, because jew jokes are not equivalent to posting porn objectifying women.

second, rules made for protecting women are not generically applicable to any and all other groups. jews are a sensitive and extra protected group, for historical reasons. for the same reason, a hate thread against blacks would also be locked down damn fast. a hate thread against whites probably would be seen as comical. is this a double standard? of course it is....but for sensible reasons and good cause. although i suspect if jmatsu were living in germany he'd be screaming 'double standard' because he couldn't wear a swastika on his arm.

taking it even further, the rules for dealing with these groups don't apply to yet other groups. for example, fat people receive no protection whatsoever. general hate against fattys has been tolerated, as well as hate against specific fat members. the reason for that is because no one really cares if fatsos quit the board. this is yet another double standard, but so what? you're complaining that people are trying to preserve the few women on the board by treating them differently....which is exactly the way it should be, because most members want to have as many women here as possible. if you feel differently and really want to drive off females, maybe a site that is already exclusively male would be better suited for you. i don't know from personal experience, but i imagine NAMBLA .com would fill the bill. you can disagree with this policy, but to claim you don't 'understand' it as in your OP is just plain dense.

are you implying that the female members of this board would rather tolerate the objectification of nonmember females then be crowned "miss superfuture 2007?"

funny how you keep dangling the carrot of this miss sufu 2007 title as something desirable and therefore a justification for the thread. why would someone want to win this? are they going to put it on their CV? brag to their friends how they were judged hottest on an internet fashion board? and even granting that some females could possibly want to win this title (which i doubt, based on insomniac's post), does the dubious distinction of miss sufu for one 'lucky' (10) soul outweigh the irritation and denigration of all of the others who didn't win, or weren't nominated, and were personally criticized and found wanting in the process? if you really think this is a great idea, why not do like legitimate pageants do and have a voluntary sign up to compete? then you'll see how coveted your title really is.

next time you happen to stumble upon one of my comments or threads why not shoot a load and clam down before making a total ass of yourself. this thread wasn't produced to promote insults or flamewars. thanks alot you fucking maggot.

anyway, i've come to realize that you basically argue for the sake of arguing, regardless of the merit of your argument. plus, you apparently feel that personal attacks are also a legitimate form of argument, and thus can always come up with another 'rebuttal,' leading to a potentially endless cycle. so, go ahead with your next round of counter 'argument' and have the last word. just be advised that for the reason cited above i won't be responding further.

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i tried to get c0c0 to meet me on the corner of 180th and Amsterdam to get some chimichurri but she wouldn't have it... i even offered to pay.

this is probably due to your spanish imperialist heritage, or because you mentioned having a girlfriend...

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westside, are you an idiot or just bored?

this rant makes no sense whatsoever. mother's child/ cat...fruit...blahX3.

it is my perverse curiosity that actually wants to know where you randomly got this from.

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This girl is over 18-san.sory fr small tities.

アメリカ人はこれによってが見るべき正常な人々の話がそれ少し困惑させるかいかにでないanime の特性のように、彼女は愚か者であるが、私はまた彼女の膣、口、およびろばの完全な力でこの女の子と、性交することを望むことを彼女が理解しないので話さない。

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normally i don't bother to argue on the internet because i frankly don't care if anyone changes their opinion after something i've posted. but your post was so full of faulty pseudo-arguments that i couldn't resist.

my gender has no effect on the truth of what i wrote.

first of all, the threads objectifying women don't make fun of women...they lust after them. what exactly does 'objectification of jews' mean??? is that a thread that lusts after jewish boobs and ass? i actually suspect that would be ok, except it would almost certainly be satirical. so your analogy is flawed, because jew jokes are not equivalent to posting porn objectifying women. fuckhead, i know homosexuals who objectify women.

second, rules made for protecting women are not generically applicable to any and all other groups. jews are a sensitive and extra protected group, for historical reasons. for the same reason, a hate thread against blacks would also be locked down damn fast. a hate thread against whites probably would be seen as comical. is this a double standard? of course it is....but for sensible reasons and good cause. although i suspect if jmatsu were living in germany he'd be screaming 'double standard' because he couldn't wear a swastika on his arm.

taking it even further, the rules for dealing with these groups don't apply to yet other groups. for example, fat people receive no protection whatsoever. general hate against fattys has been tolerated, as well as hate against specific fat members. the reason for that is because no one really cares if fatsos quit the board. this is yet another double standard, but so what? you're complaining that people are trying to preserve the few women on the board by treating them differently....which is exactly the way it should be, because most members want to have as many women here as possible. if you feel differently and really want to drive off females, maybe a site that is already exclusively male would be better suited for you. i don't know from personal experience, but i imagine NAMBLA .com would fill the bill.

funny how you keep dangling the carrot of this miss sufu 2007 title as something desirable and therefore a justification for the thread. why would someone want to win this? are they going to put it on their CV? brag to their friends how they were judged hottest on an internet fashion board? and even granting that some females could possibly want to win this title, which i doubt, does the dubious distinction of miss sufu for one 'lucky' soul outweigh the irritation and denigration of all of the others who didn't win, and were personally criticized and found wanting in the process?

anyway, i've come to realize that you basically argue for the sake of arguing, regardless of the merit of your argument. plus, you apparently feel that personal attacks are also a legitimate form of argument, and thus can always come up with another 'rebuttal.' so, go ahead with your next round of counter 'argument' and have the last word. just be advised that for the reason cited above i won't be responding further.

the jew example is maybe a tad far-fetched, but you def get the point i was trying to make (admit it or not). jewish people can be objectifed and stereotyped. obviously not every jew is limited to curly sideburns, a big beards, and a little hat. and yes, there are people who lust after jews. just because one would objectify a woman doesn't mean tht he would specifically lust after her.

you are acutally helping my argument. you talk about fat people and different types of people and the degrees to which they are protected ( or their subject matter based threads are moderated). why the big distinction and classification of desirable members and nondesirable? i know things will never be totally equal, but is this senitment not a noble one? seriously i wouldn't even care if there were more or less women. as long as members have something interesting/informative/entertaining to say, why should their genders be a big issue and be moderated differently upon???

i am indifferent, but i'm sure you could easily find a site favoring the female to male ratio quite easily.

you're argument about the miss sufu thread is bland. i am pretty sure that most nominees of all kinds of pagents feel pretty good just to get nominated. "lucky? (the female member lucky enough...)," obviously a fair miss sufu campaign wouldn't have anything to do with luck, but actual merit. oh shit! i never got nominated for shit in that one guy's superfuture awards...i guess the other losers and i should seek some sort of therapy.

and finally, I care little to whether or not insults are a good form of rebuttal, but i do enjoy calling out vermin like yourself. i wouldn't even be typing this fucking shit if you had just remained silent. i was actually looking foward to members' various opinions, until you, for some reason, found it necessary to post such a menacing and intelligence-insulting comment.

DON'T FORGET, YOU PROMISED IN YOUR PREVIOUS RANT THAT YOU WOULD STFU.

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its hard not to. i've yet to see him argue a weak point.

actually the secret is just to wear your opponent down (you don't have to be eloquent, but just semi-coherent). eventually the person with the least amount of e-endurance will give up and let you get in the last words or insults in.

don't tell anyone!

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actually the secret is just to wear your opponent down (you don't have to be eloquent, but just semi-coherent). eventually the person with the least amount of e-endurance will give up and let you get in the last words or insults in.

don't tell anyone!

Wise words from the master. If I ever get bagged on a real case, I'm calling this man up.

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