Nudies: Selvage vs non-selvage

[Tenchi]

I wanna get some nudies soon, but am not sure. What is the actual difference between the fabric types?

Is the selvage line just purely for aesthetics?

The thing is, if they're the same type or fabric, I might as well get the non-selvage version as I'm not exatly planning on wearing them cuffed.

Yep yep I've serached and stuff but its still kinda hard to clarify here..

[zehero]

Go for the ones you like. Selvedge isn't neccessary, but if they have it, then whatever.

[denimdestroyedmylife]

tenchi!

welcome to the future! you will find your new home in cyberspace cozy and warm; populated by all sorts of strange and magnificent creatures obsessed with all things indigo and cotton.

there's a stickied thread in superdenim that TweedlesInPink put together that compiles a lot of interesting info that you may find usual on your quest for new jeans.

here are some links on SELVAGE:

Selvedge (also, twill and dyeing discussion):

http://superfuture.com/city/supertal...read.php?t=771

http://superfuture.com/city/supertal...ead.php?t=2415

my advice would be to read up before you buy. you don't want to buy non-selvage and then decide a couple months down the road that you actually want shuttle-loomed denim instead.

i would examine what's important to you and how much of a factor COST is in your decision.

for the money, APC is a better value in my opinion. you can get selvage APCs for cheaper than non-selvage Nudies. but then, i have no experience with APC whatsoever; and i don't own non-selvage Nudies. it has been said numerous times that non-selvage nudies are garbage.

good luck! happy hunting!

ddml

[Tenchi]

Cool thanks, yeh selvage is nice, got some evisus No.1s and stuff

But if anyone out there has any personal experiences with the non-selvage Nudie lmk. And does anyone know which one stays shinier for longer? I'm not sure if the selvage will affect the sheen due to its bumpiness.

And yeh dunno where to find APCs in Aus...

[denimdestroyedmylife]

selvage and non-selvage nudies are mercerized, so the sheen will be the same AFAIK.

have you posted pics of your evisu? i'd like to see them.

why don't you go for IMPERIAL denim instead? AUSSIE denim that is nudie's better-looking cousin. felled seams, real leather patch.

[tweeds]

selvedge has no bearing on sheen or colour, it's just what different grades of denim nudie uses for selvedge or non-selvedge. in this case it seems as ddml says they have opted for lower quality denim in their non-selvedge models. but selvedge does not equate to quality, it's just a historical detail that we love to have.

evisu no. 1s? that's lovely. are they japanese evisu or the europe edition?

i second the imperial vote.

[Cameland]

i third it. imperials are great jeans. sold my pair tho, would be cooler if they had some differnt cuts tho. I have a non selvage nudie and yeah it sux haha.

[Ratatat]

Dukes don't work for everone.

I wear super slim kims (non-selvedge), i love them.

[Akura]

One thing about the non selvage denim in nudies is that their SUPER LIGHT WEIGHT! the denim is extremely thin and ears easily but if you get the ones with lycra it helps with the tearing a bit. This is only a comparison beween he Straight Sven selvage and BO dry not too much about other cuts.

[Yet Fung]

Fourth. I want me a pair of kings real bad.

[horriblyjollyjinx]

nudies selvedge denim has better color than their other denim. It's not because of the selvedge, it's just made to higher specifications.

[xviralx]

Dukes don't work for everone.

I wear super slim kims (non-selvedge), i love them.

same here. they are like my second skin. great cut.

[keyko]

I wanna get some nudies soon, but am not sure. What is the actual difference between the fabric types?

Is the selvage line just purely for aesthetics?

The thing is, if they're the same type or fabric, I might as well get the non-selvage version as I'm not exatly planning on wearing them cuffed.

Yep yep I've serached and stuff but its still kinda hard to clarify here..

Well, Nudie makes only two models in selvage denim - Regurlar Ralph (slight bootcut) and Straight Sven. Assuming that you want your jeans raw, I would suggest you get the selvage ones. Nudie's selvage denim comes from Japan and fades differently than their Italian non-selvage denim.

BTW, how much are RRDS in Oz these days?

[Yet Fung]

Well, Nudie makes only two models in selvage denim - Regurlar Ralph (slight bootcut) and Straight Sven. Assuming that you want your jeans raw, I would suggest you get the selvage ones. Nudie's selvage denim comes from Japan and fades differently than their Italian non-selvage denim.

BTW, how much are RRDS in Oz these days?

Baggy Bjorns are orange selvage too, and left-hand twill.

[keyko]

Baggy Bjorns are orange selvage too, and left-hand twill.

Yes, but they are kinda niche jeans and if dry, they come only in selvage denim.

[Yet Fung]

I wouldn't spend the money to buy selvage if it weren't raw/one wash anyways. Anyone looking for a good washed/distressed jean probably could care less about selvage, the jeans are already faded!

[suntorytime]

You can still get japanese denim in some of their non-selvage lines iirc. ie Slim Jim Dry Japan. If you can't be arsed to pay extra for something you don't really know much about/ don't care for, but want decent quality denim then i'd recommend the sj dry japans.

[keyko]

^ I think the denim quality is equally important whether you are buying washed or raw. If I were buying any washed jeans now, I would rather go for Japanese (like Triple Works) and preferrably selvage.

[jooky]

i have a pair of slim jims that are not selvage and i must say that i am a bit underwhelmed with their quality. i mean, i like the cut and all, but the denim just isn't up to par. i dont have a lot to compare them to, but i have a pair of jr calis no wash that are selvage, and the difference in quality is just striking to me. the stiffness and feel of the calis just blow the nudies out of the water imo. the nudies are rather 'flimsy', and do not crease very well, which takes them a long time to break-in and fade.

the new dry japan slim jims, however, seem a bit more promising. the weave on them look different than my current slim jims (rh twill v. broken twill, respectively), and of course have the advantage of being made with japanese denim, as opposed to the italian (i believe) denim used in the older slim jim models.

im not unhappy that i purchased my slim jims, as they are still a very comfortable jean to wear with a great fit. it's just that im a little disappointed with the overall quality.

[keyko]

You can still get japanese denim in some of their non-selvage lines iirc. ie Slim Jim Dry Japan. If you can't be arsed to pay extra for something you don't really know much about/ don't care for, but want decent quality denim then i'd recommend the sj dry japans.

Nice info, thanks! They were not available in 2005 when I got me SSDS

[Yet Fung]

Of course you want high quality denim, that's a given. That doesn't necessarily mean selvage. Like you said, it's a niche market, and those who prefer selvage more often than not would prefer raw as well. Same goes for hidden rivets, button flys, felled inseams, vegetable indigo, anit-fit etc, etc, etc.

[keyko]

Of course you want high quality denim, that's a given. That doesn't necessarily mean selvage. Like you said, it's a niche market, and those who prefer selvage more often than not would prefer raw as well. Same goes for hidden rivets, button flys, felled inseams, vegetable indigo, anit-fit etc, etc, etc.

Selvage + good wash = usually way beyond reasonable budget for a pair of jeans, but there are exceptions, and I would rather go for those exceptions rather than for non-selvage washed jeans at the same price level.

[DJI]

BTW, how much are RRDS in Oz these days?

They cost AUS $350 at Dakota 501, ditto for the Japanese Selvedge SSDS.

[Tenchi]

Yeh I might get some imperials but i've gotta go to the city and stuff which I have almost no time to do so. (nudies i can get coz its nearby by in parramatta)

I'll post some pics of the evisus in the before and after section

[robbeec]

tenchi, i work in the city, ill pick em up for you if you want. i know their 260 cause i was down there the other day. hit me up on sneakerfreaker if you need help.

[Cameland]

well i have a pair of Bootcut Olas and well theyre very thin to begin with and then they stretch like hell so it only becomes thinner and thinner, theyve ripped almost everywhere they can. The cut is good tho just the denim is too lightweight for everyday use.

[Tenchi]

tenchi, i work in the city, ill pick em up for you if you want. i know their 260 cause i was down there the other day. hit me up on sneakerfreaker if you need help.

lol sup robbeec

Yeh its cool and all but I've gotta check out the fit and stuff, so I might do it in the holidays (couple of weeks left)

Them No.1 specials

[denimdestroyedmylife]

hmmm... those jeans look brand new.

you really want another pair?

[Tenchi]

For a bit of variety

they're only like about a month old i think

[Indifferent]

You can get APCs at some store in Elzabeth Bay and also at Ourspot. They retail for about $230.

I recommend buying APCs/Imperials. I have a feeling that Nudie will blow up in Sydney soon thanks to the Tsubi wearing crowd copping pairs from GP.