Can someone please explain...

[sneakeraddict]

... Why left hand twill is more comfortable to wear than right hand?

Having been reading about the various properties of left hand twill for some time on here, I had seen various threads saying how comfortable left is to wear.

I have to admit I quietly thought to myself: "what a load of pretentious bullshit. If you were to 'blind test' I bet they would feel exactly the same."

Then...

I got some raw Wrangler repros. I put them on and I genuinely had to lift up the leg to see if they were lined (like suit trousers) because I couldnt believe how comfortable the denim is in comparison to my other jeans. They are as close to wearing marl tracksuit bottoms as denim is gonna get. And guess what? They are left hand twill.

So what the hell makes 'left' much more comfortable than 'right'?

(and therefore why arent all jeans made 'left'? )

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Nashville 28 x 34 (£90) and Greenville 28 x 34 (£50)

[minya]

It's softer and less stiff.

This makes it wear in differently -- you don't get sharp contrasts like you do with right-hand-twill denim, just a sort of all-over fade.

[Serge d Nimes]

I think right hand is more comfortable because the jeans crease more and conform to the body.

Carpe Denim! (not the jean brand silly!)

[ringring]

Left hand talk http://www.superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=5695

More left hand talk http://www.superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=7730

Summary - yes, it's softer, but only if you're judging like-for-like denims. Otherwise not all left hand denims are softer than RH denims.

[sneakeraddict]

yeah, but surely if you make denim jeans with 'right hand twill' and turn the fabric 180 degrees you have 'left hand twill' ????? !!!

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Nashville 28 x 34 (£90) and Greenville 28 x 34 (£50)

[denimdestroyedmylife]

or look in a mirror

Using chain stitch, your train of jeans is fading wind.

[Paul T]

Er, 180 degrees will still give you r/h twill!

I have a long explanation somewhere, but essentially, r/h twill has traditionally been the convention because the weave 'closes' the twist of the yarn, making it tighter, some people say this is harder wearing. l/h tends to open it and make the denim feel softer. l/h has become popular in women's jeans for that reason - so has broken twill for much the same reason. But as ringring points out, this would only make a difference all other things being equal.

There was a practical reason that Wrangler pioneered broken twill - cowboys liked to press their jeans, and leg twist would have been disastrous! But it seems most likely that Lee went for l/h twill just because it was different to Levi's.

[witts]

sorry.... but could some please provide pictures of examples and how to tell?

SUPERJUNKIE

[sneakeraddict]

look down at your jeans.

From the 'top' the direction of the 'stripes' runs either from left to right (right hand twill) or vice versa.

I think this is correct? This is how I identied the aforementioned Wranglers.

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[witts]

confused got a pic for an example

SUPERJUNKIE

[sneakeraddict]

will try to get some informative pics up soon.

off topic: Witts, is Selfridges stocking the Greenville you mentioned in the other thread ??

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[witts]

selfridges london yes raw greenville £95 . i went to buy a pair the other week but i had a problem with my discount card. motherfucker!!!!

SUPERJUNKIE

[sneakeraddict]

damn.

used to happen in the shop I worked in too. Not a cool shop though, so was never end of the world.

selfridges never got my sizes in anyway, Im too 'plus size'

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Nashville 28 x 34 (£90) and Greenville 28 x 34 (£50)

[witts]

i didnt really check what other sizes they had.. was just gonna get my 30x32... i was gonna go for the 32 but they were alittle loose... so i thought get the 30s and theyll stretch out

SUPERJUNKIE

[ilovespaz]

i met this girl who runs a vintage levi's shop on melrose avenue called golf punk.... she schooled me on l/h, r/h, and broken twill. . . pretty crazy ... so much schooling that i forgot half the stuff she told me.

booty clap contest anyone?.......

[Serge d Nimes]

Look at my signature. I have Vintage Levi right hand on one side and Lee left hand on the other. They are opposite.

Carpe Denim! (not the jean brand silly!)

[Geowu]

there were many explanations about the whole thing in the past, could they be found with the search button?

[Serge d Nimes]

Geowu, let me search your question and get back to you.

Carpe Denim! (not the jean brand silly!)

[Ahlvahroe]

I just saw these and they have both right and left, a bit weird looking but to each his own. http://www.rakuten.co.jp/more-net/376332/523111/

[__3xL]

you have a buhdunkadunk ilovespaz ?? make it clap ...

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