how thin is too thin?

[dry the rain]

^^^fantastic

[superdupersang]

on a more relevant note - i absolutely disagree with all the new imposed rules on minimum BMI requirements for models to work in runway shows. WHy hasn't anyone made a ruckus about how this is really a form of censorship?

when was the last fat person you saw in a fashion show? or anything related to fashion, that wasnt gimiky ?

there is a maximum BMI rule within fashion and you would be naive to think otherwise.

do you not think models are under stress to loose weight?

example: the 2 brazilian models who died of malnutrition.

[Vitamian]

I don't see why there should be any problems with someone being thin.

It's certainly a better sight than the other extreme: obesity.

[fndmybetterhalf]

i think its ugly in both ends...obese person = not a good sight but a person whos too skinny isnt a good sight either.

[A_G]

on a more relevant note - i absolutely disagree with all the new imposed rules on minimum BMI requirements for models to work in runway shows. WHy hasn't anyone made a ruckus about how this is really a form of censorship?

It's for the protection of the model as the industry is most certainly not self-regulating. Models (mostly women but also large number of men) are under tremendous pressure to maintain a slim silhouette, oftentimes resorting to anorexia and bulimia to do so.

Why hasn't anyone made a ruckus about how the agencies exploit their, more often than not, very young and impressionable models.

[shinobi2000]

when was the last fat person you saw in a fashion show? or anything related to fashion, that wasnt gimiky ?

there is a maximum BMI rule within fashion and you would be naive to think otherwise.

do you not think models are under stress to loose weight?

example: the 2 brazilian models who died of malnutrition.

I MAY be swayed once I see cold hard data and numbers that a large # of the rake-thin models are that way because they are bulimic and anorexic and not because they are that way naturally. 2 deaths while unfortunate do not speak for an entire industry. We come in all sizes and shapes and the model scouts FOUND them in that condition...the modeling industry didn't make them thin. Of course there is pressure to stay thin, that's the demand of the job. A model that transgresses into danger territory involving bulimia/anorexia has an unfortunate problem that is hers/his alone. It is absolutely absurd and ridiculous to force the fashion industry and designers to change for the models. At the other extreme, you wouldn't expect the rules of sports to change to discourage anabolic steroid abuse? No one says, oh we shouldn't pressure athletes to be big and strong and fast because that would lead to steroid use. No one says we should put a limit on how fast a 500 meter run can be accomplished so that no one shoots up. Blaming the fashion industry for the poor choices made by these models is right up there in the same league as people who blame real world violence on television violence...the old "the television made me do it" defense.

[shinobi2000]

It's for the protection of the model as the industry is most certainly not self-regulating. Models (mostly women but also large number of men) are under tremendous pressure to maintain a slim silhouette, oftentimes resorting to anorexia and bulimia to do so.

Why hasn't anyone made a ruckus about how the agencies exploit their, more often than not, very young and impressionable models.

Again, I just don't see it this way -- with the big ol evil modeling industry "exploiting" and intimidating these poor little models. Anorexia and bulimia are true medical diseases whose causes are still being investigated. I can't just magically MAKE anybody anorexic or bulimic at will by showing them pictures of skinny people and making them feel bad about themselves. There's a reason why it happens to some people and not others and we have not fully elucidated them yet.

Fine, you're all for regulation? Ok, I'll give in to that. How about we do something truly constructive and reasonable instead of just absurdly banning anyone with a BMI below so and so. I propose that just like in sports, models get mandatory health checks to see if they are bulimic or anorexic or just naturally thin. This is easily diagnosed from simple examination of finger nails and teeth to more sophisticated blood tests like plasma albumin and pre-albumin levels. keto-acids ( can be checked in urine too), basically a full nutrition status evaluation.

My real issue is about taking responsibility for consequences and the expectations of society in dealing with these consequences. The designer, as an artist, designs clothes in the proportions and sizes that he feels fit for his vision and drapes it on bodies that he feels best displays the lines, shapes and silhouettes of his clothes. And if that happens to be rake thin models, so be it. You might as well tell Picasso, I don't like your cubes, please round out your designs. That's just absurd. It's censorship.

[CaptMomo]

theres a difference between thin

and unhealthy thin.

imposing a max bmi to regulate the weight of models is misguided and futile though.

[ghostdeini]

At the other extreme, you wouldn't expect the rules of sports to change to discourage anabolic steroid abuse? No one says, oh we shouldn't pressure athletes to be big and strong and fast because that would lead to steroid use. No one says we should put a limit on how fast a 500 meter run can be accomplished so that no one shoots up.

wait, I thought there was already drug-testing put into place by the olympics and major league baseball, no?

[sean_]

yeah, so how about that episode of house where th crazy 15 yr old model bitch freaked out on the runway and smacked a ho, and then house got her dad to admit to fucking her? that shit was fuckin awesome

[seraphim]

^House is one of the hottest fake doctors ever. I'd have his children.

[Double D]

Er... it's easier to fit into a girls 24 than a guys 25. Girl jeans have elastane and are cut for bigger hips and arse. My girlfriend's jeans are absolutely huge up top compared to mine in similar sizes, and then taper down to an insanely small leg opening.