black denim?

[sneakeraddict]

Hi,

where to find some nice black DENIM in a quality brand jeans? (one which will fade nicely, the equivalent of natural indigo fade over time)

Ironheart do some really nice ones, but a bit pricey for me at the moment.

They don't have to be selvedge, but I do want them to be a nice quality.

By the way, as has been expressed in a lower post, I'm not down with the whole nut-cruncher thing, so APC, Nudies, Cheap Monday, Dior Homme etc are out

Im a 36 leg.

thanks

[triniboy27]

Both Rag + Bone and Kicking Mule do a black denim that might fit your needs...

[sneakeraddict]

cheers, I will check them out.

thanks

[RobbertJan]

black denim will never fade as much as natural indigo denim......

''I'm a street-walking cheetah with a heart full of napalm/i'm a runaway son of the nuclear A-bomb/I am the world's forgotten boy/The one who searches and destroys''...James Jewel Osterberg

[Edge_Of_Denim]

Denime makes a style called "66 Black". Go to Rakuten. Very fucking sharp. I just wish they were available to try on. Oh well...

[johninger]

The black dye used doesn' have the same qualities as indigo, so will not fade in the same way.

Some companies use an indigo/black combination, doesn't work trust me.

Well excuse me! Excuse me...

[Icicle Cubicle]

MAIDEN NOIR

Black Selvage Slim Fit Denim

scooping my pair up tomorrow.

In my past life I was a biblical times savor, in this day and age I'm a political sign waver.

[Edge_Of_Denim]

Ok, my thirst for black denim appears about to be slaked. I'm going for Denime "66 Black":

http://www.rakuten.co.jp/shooting/896828/910917/

[sneakeraddict]

how do you order from Japanese sites?

not that they ever do a 36 x 36 anyway

also been trying to find some Japanese made lee 101bs, and I know that they make my size but I cant understand a word of rakuten etc, even with a translator like Google and wouldnt know how to buy, even if I found them!! ?

[Edge_Of_Denim]

sneakeraddict, djrajio, playing the role of the valuable middleman, is going to hook me up. This deal will set me back just over two hundred dollars. Very fair, I'd say. The "66 black" is available in 36x36.

[sneakeraddict]

thanks for getting back to me.

Could the good doctor help me find my Lees? At long last? !

And as for the Denimes, 36x 36, do you reckon they are sanforzied or un-sanforized?

I cant afford shrinkage, as I genuinely need to wear a 36 inside leg.

[Edge_Of_Denim]

You know, I emailed djrajio about that. I had forgotten to ask him about the unwashed/one washed thing. From what I could pick up on the website, through Google's not very effective translator, is that some may be unwashed and that shrinkage is "Less than 8%". However, further down the page, it says that size 36 "does not shrink". Whatever, he'll get back to me about that.

Edited by minya on Mar 12, 2006 at 12:41 PM

[sneakeraddict]

Thanks for the info.

I'd really appreciate it if you could ask that guy whether he can get me my Japanese made Lee 101b's in dry unwashed, size 36 x 36, with double selvedge.

[sneakeraddict]

Yo - Edge of Denim, did you ever find out any further info about these Denime Black Selvedge, regarding the shrinkage situation?

I need a non shrinking 36 x 36!!

thanks

[spitzbrg]

Quote:

The black dye used doesn' have the same qualities as indigo, so will not fade in the same way.

Some companies use an indigo/black combination, doesn't work trust me.

--- Original message by johninger on Feb 28, 2006 07:55 PM

"Some companies use an indigo/black combination, doesn't work trust me."

Which companies are you referring to? Big John and Edwin Jeans both dyed their indigo denim black for "black denim" during the 80s. I personally haven't seen black denim look as nice since..

[horriblyjollyjinx]

Works for Samurai.

dontcaretoomuchforcrap CANT SKATE!!

[sneakeraddict]

Those are exactly the type of black jeans I am looking for.

Unfortunately, I dont think Samurai do a sanforized 36 leg

[horriblyjollyjinx]

Samurai makes jeans that shrink to 36. Unfortunately those black jeans are sold out it seems.

Iron Heart might take a special order for a pair of 36L.

dontcaretoomuchforcrap CANT SKATE!!

Edited by horriblyjollyjinx on Mar 13, 2006 at 05:28 AM

[gunpwdr]

I'm mesmerized by those jeans...

Are those yours jinx?

[sneakeraddict]

possibly the black 66 denimes would go like that?

[horriblyjollyjinx]

not mine, they're from http://www.samurai-j.com/samurai/samurai_boast/

I don't know if black Denime's would fade like that, I'd rather say no than yes since it is so uncommon for black jeans to fade well.

dontcaretoomuchforcrap CANT SKATE!!

[Ted DiBiase]

the dior homme regular fit (21cm its called i think), is not a nut choker. especially if you got a sz 36 wich would measure out close to a 38 probably, wear it loose. the leg length is like 37 or 38L and at that size the hem opening at the bottom is probably bigger then 21 cm. unless you have huge thick thighs and legs, it should fit like a normal straight jean.

that was what i thought of right away for a 36 inseam or larger, out the door.

[Edge_Of_Denim]

I got my Denime 66 Black. They're a different sort of black from what we here in the states are used to seeing. I'm thinking of that deep, panther black Levis uses. There is more visible white in the Denime so it has sharp contrast which is boss. And the sheen is tops, and it's slubbiness gives even more texture. The leg is stovepipe straight, a killer look. Right out of the box, I soaked them in a cold tub for a couple hours and was impressed by how little dye ran out. I then threw them in a washing machine's final rinse cycle and dried them flat. No shit, I've already had two guys ask me what was I wearing and how they could grab a pair. Funny thing is, as I look at them I can't really imagine what they'll look like after mucho wear. I don't think frequent washing is the way to go with these, better to just keep wearing them, I think.

If I could figure out how to post pics here, I would. But, damn, posting is a nightmare. I can't figure it out.

Lastly, massive props to djrajio for making this happen. If anyone is hesitant about using his services, don't be. I make him out to be a stand-up fellow. The entire transaction was very smooth.

[horriblyjollyjinx]

you can upload pics to imageshack.us

after that you click the 7th button from the left above the message box and insert the address to the pics between the IMG tags.

Let us know if they wear in like blue jeans, I doubt it but there is a possibility since Samurais do this.

dontcaretoomuchforcrap CANT SKATE!!

[sneakeraddict]

Edge of Denim:

What size did you get?

I did PM / email Djiro guy, but I didnt get a response, so maybe he doesnt feel like doing it, which is fair enough! I think Ill have to use Juno.

Can I ask you - do they / have they shrink since soaking?

I would like to know what the inside leg is on these if possible. I am looking to buy a 36 x 36.

cheers

[horriblyjollyjinx]

almost all of these brands shrink to tagged size, the exception would be Skull but they have measurements in their shop.

you can check out skull jeans here http://www.fabfour.co.jp/netshop/babe/showcase/list_btm001.html

click on a model you like, some are available in black even though they're not listed on the first page.

dontcaretoomuchforcrap CANT SKATE!!

[sneakeraddict]

thanks for your reply. I will check that out now.

The only reason I was concerned about the Denimes is because on one of the Rakuten sites that sells them, it says (in English) "this model will not shrink".

So I am thinking, is this the same as the crazy LVC thing where it says 36 x 38 on the label and the real measurements are actually 33 x 34, if you know what I mean.

[Edge_Of_Denim]

A 36x36 is what I ordered. Pre-soak, the waist measured 36", the leg was about 38", or so. It shrunk down to a very comfortable 34x34, although the leg falls as if it might be longer, but it's not. And I have room for future shrinkage, I believe I said earlier.

Jinx, those Skull Ebony straight legs are sick. What kind of wash/finish is that? It's got an amazing sheen. Why did you have to go and post that, huh, why? WHY?!

The only good thing is they don't seem to come in a 36.

Edited by Edge_Of_Denim on Mar 23, 2006 at 04:18 PM

[Edge_Of_Denim]

Denime Black pics:

http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img03111527573ps.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img3136bs.jpg

http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img03138sq.jpg

http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img03143ec.jpg

The last shows more of the contrast in the fabric as I mentioned above, and which really makes these jeans stand out from the basic black jean.

Edited by Edge_Of_Denim on Mar 24, 2006 at 07:21 AM

[sneakeraddict]

i was surprised you said the leg shrank 4 inches after one cold soak. 38 to 34

this model is not meant to shrink according to one of the rakuten shops!

I do like them though, but am now a bit hesitant to buy them because I need a real 36 length.