A beautiful dsquared garment? Yes! It's true!

[Tyler]

What do you guys think of this peacoat from DSquared (yes, yes I know all of the gay remarks but I think it's beautifully cut) it's made from a wool/silk mix. IGNORE THE HAT PLEASE!

Any thoughts?

And anyone know how much I should expect to pay?

Thanks

T

[SENDkylHISPASSWORD]

Not bad, Don't know about the price. It's deffinatley a cool jacket, just something looks a bit off. It seems to short, and looks like a blazer rather than a coat. Decent...

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[Tyler]

Hiya

That's what I liked - it's a great cut but also shorter than normal so it looks, slightly different to the norm.

T

[Whatever]

Its not actually that short, he is 8'' tall, look at the jeans!

[SENDkylHISPASSWORD]

Quote:

Its not actually that short, he is 8'' tall, look at the jeans!

--- Original message by Whatever on Dec 9, 2005 10:19 AM

What the fuck are you talking about?

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[RedFoxxworth]

Nevermind.

IT GETS WACKER BY THE SECOND!

Edited by RedFoxxworth on Dec 9, 2005 at 11:53 AM

[colin]

he was joking; i thought it was funny.

[chromesquared]

I would guess retail on that would be no less that about 1800 and anywhere up to about 2500USD.....

[DJ_Flame]

I have the same jacket in black from Jil Sander. It looks very timeless not to mention very good,and will be a great buy

edit: Wool / Silk blend you say? sounds interesting.

Edited by DJ_Flame on Dec 9, 2005 at 03:48 PM

[Matay]

if you look closely, he is 8" tall AND FLOATING!!!!

Why aren't his feet touching the ground ?

lol

we are made of the sharpest things you say

[Yakboy Equals Nurturer]

He's suspended above the runway by an invisible length of piano wire threaded through his head.

[DJ_Flame]

I guess the rumors are true. D2 does turn men into something else

[neawts]

8' was the joke you see. I larfed.

[Guest Fade to Black]

Yeah like dude above me said I can't see this jacket going for under $1800...and honestly it's not worth it. DSquared garments (knits or otherwise) really aren't good quality, whether it's sweaters, sweatshirts and t-shirts (really rough cotton that doesn't warrant the price, at least Yohji Yamamoto/Y's, Rick Owens, etc. use very refined cottons and have an excellent color hue)...this jacket is probably quite thin and won't keep you very warm. DSquared also has a wool/silk blend cardigan sweater and it just felt so thin and flimsy to the touch when I saw it in person, I wouldn't pay $1000 for that. Also i just don't like the shape of that jacket. For about $300 less might as well get the Dior Homme full wool long peacoat.

[skecr8r]

Even if it was 300$ more you would of course get the Dior Homme peacoat.

dress badly on purpose.

[Tyler]

Hi guys

Those who are questioning the quality of dsquared - sorry but that's rubbish. Went to the shop to see the jacket and ended up buying two from dsquared. And my decision was purely on the quality of the frabric and cut. The peacoat is superb, beautifully made - very thick, because of the weave used won't bobble like most woollen coats and the cut is just spot on. The lining is well made, the buttons excellent quality, and the attendtion to detail is exquisite. I tried the Dior peacoat as well on the same day (and one or two others) and none of them fit as well or were nearly as well made.

The second jacket was a fantastic winter jacket, wool, leather and fur - sounds awful but if I can find a pic I'll post it as it's very, very nice indeed.

Really, I have never been a big fan of dsquared before as I was always swayed by the arguments that people post on forums such as this but if you actually take a good look, try them on and choose timeless pieces rather than "fashion" pieces, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised - it's the best quality clothing I have seen in a long time. I am a massive Dior fan (see my threads on their jeans) but in terms of quality of materials and manufacture - dsquared beats Dior hands down.

I got the coat and jacket in a sale which just started the other day - so got the peacoat for £600GBP. Not bad I'd say. And I love it. It's in black by the way.

So there we have it.

T

Edited by Tyler on Dec 11, 2005 at 06:26 AM

[SENDkylHISPASSWORD]

the quality argument is bullshit, once your in a certain level in the game, the quality is all decent. The "Quality" argument is a bunk excuse for disliking or liking something...

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[Guest Fade to Black]

Quote:

the quality argument is bullshit, once your in a certain level in the game, the quality is all decent. The "Quality" argument is a bunk excuse for disliking or liking something...

--- Original message by SENDkylHISPASSWORD on Dec 11, 2005 04:48 PM

umm...no it's not. Quality is definitely a valid argument for certain designer brands...don't be so naive to think just because you've reached a certain "level" of fashion (whatever that means...if you were referring to high price tags being an indicator of this 'level' then i think that's even more absurd) it's all superior garments. Quality is an issue that has to be taken into account even more at 'high fashion' levels because that determines if something is priced reasonably in relation to how good the fabric is, etc. (obviously no designer good is ever priced 'reasonably,' but relatively speaking).

When you get to a certain level of experience with garments you can tell when something is top notch quality or not...if your theory held true, explain to me why certain Dior Homme zip-up pulls feel so thin and flimsy you can almost snap them in half if you pulled at them harder, or why you need to pay $500 for a shetland wool sweater with a couple plastic beads sewn in, which is made of the cheapest and roughest of wools.

The fact is, DSquared clothes are NOT good quality. The cotton used for the t-shirts/sweatshirts/button down shirts is on par with Abercrombie level cotton, and the knits are not even made of the most superb materials (like that wool/silk $800 cardigan i mentioned in other thread which feels so thin and fragile). If you want a comparable example that is good quality, check Dolce & Gabbana.

[Guest Fade to Black]

However I will say this...with a brand such as DSquared, it is more the "look" you are buying into anyway...if you appreciate that kind of aesthetic and spend your money to complete that dsquared look that suits you, i have no problem with it. It's just one of my pet peeves when people say something is necessarily a 'quality' garment just because it's designer, when the truth is that not all designer clothes are.

[Tyler]

I completely agree with Fade to Black about the quality issue - I have seen some Marc Jacobs, Alexander McQueen, Dior and other "quality" clothes that do not use either good fabrics or good manufacturing processes. However, I disagree that dsaquared is poor quality - at least not from what I've seen. Now, I haven't admittedly seen their t-shirts or tops (not my cup of tea) but I can testify that their jackets bothe leather and wool are of the HIGHEST quality and beat Dior hands down. The Dior pea coat is poorly cut and the wool used is not of the best quality. The dsquared is.

Perhaps none of us can make sweeping statements that this labels range is poor quality or that labels range is poor quality - it all depends on the individual garment.

People are going crazy here in the UK for Gap cashmere and whilst cahsmere is regarded as being a high quality material - there are various different grades of cahsmere and not all denote quality. Gap cashmere is lovely but it won't last and is not high quality...

But to say that once you reach a certain level or price point that everything will be of high quality is rubbish. Some of the most expensive garments I have seen are the worst made.

I don't buy expensive clothes for the label - I buy them if they fit well, are made well and will last. I don't buy anything to wear for just one "season" - I buy it to last me...

[djrajio]

I have to agree with Tyler that Dsquared has some very well made jackets and suits (although fused). But, I think trying to compare the quality of both labels against each other is just plain stupid. It's common knowledge that Dior's quality has degraded in the past several seasons, particularly in more mass produced/higher volume items like t-shirts, jeans, etc, accessories. But its also common knowledge that Dsquared charges more outrageously (although Dior has been guilty of this recently with basic items) for basic items. But trying to compare the two is somewhat mute considering that so much of the process of much of "fashion labels" is done by the same outsourced companies. It's common knowledge that most fashion labels don't produce their suits in house but outsource to middle-man sources and the same is true for jeans, accessories, dress-shirts, etc., etc., aside from key collection items (yes, even Dior); more so considering that Dior is part of LVMH. From a supply-chain/production perspective it makes sense and is the reality.

[skecr8r]

It depends on the quality mark.

If you set your mark at H&M, Dsquared is great, so is Dior Homme.

If you set your mark at Dior, Dsquared is average, but Jil Sander kicks it.

If you set your mark at Jil Sander, Dior is poor, but Haute Couture still beats it.

Its about the mark, but I would comply with the truth about all high-end-fashion is good quality.

You never pay for quality, you pay for branding and huge advertizing budget.

dress badly on purpose.

[juxtaposed]

you also have to think about improvement or declinig process dertain brands go through,

e.g. when i saw my first Dior Homme sports jacket in 2001 or 2002 at barneys, it was the best crafted, cut & designed sports jacket i had ever seen. not to mention the material quality, simply superb.it was like it came out of hedis atelier , made in superior artisanal quality and out of great sewing and construciton skills. so was the price ( if i remeber it right the jacket was 7000$ !!)

if you compared it to dsquared stuff at that time,you were just out of yur mind, cause dsquared literally fell apart on you wearing it.even worse than h&m back then.

no quality at all. even the jackets were made from pleather. their cuts and styles were nice tho. but materials were just rubbish.

but nowadays dsquared makes really beautiful jackets made out of the best materials.

(the leatherjakcets and coats, or the winter parkas,also the woolcoats ) but the price point is outrageous. the winter parka goes for 4000$. but its simply unrivaled.cant touch it.

and today dior has not anymore the quality that it used to have. its nevertheless a top label.

it had a nosedive in quality (e.g. gluing the suits, italian denim instead of japanese etc) but )the pricing went down also. i guess they just were too expensive.now they offer a more reasonable price for normal quality.

even h&m is nice nowadays and have improved much. they've nice and soft merinowool and cashmere sweaters in beautiful colors and cuts. nice cut suits and shirts. whatever..they partly really make great stuff now.the pricing is gone up a fraction but reflects the quality. best value for the money.