new 501s stitching

[ironskulls]

i recently purchased a pair of red tab 501s (not shrink to fits) from filenes...i noticed that the inside leg stitching is only a single thread as opposed to the much sturdier double stitches that my older (u.s. made) pairs i've bought in the past have. what's going on here? they seem very low quality in general. are these irregulars or do all the imports come like this now? i'm not a jean expert by any means but i am a loyal levis customer...any info would be appreciated.

it's the limit.

[Geowu]

maybe you should switch to more expensive levis. (If I may advise you)

[sweet orr]

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i recently purchased a pair of red tab 501s (not shrink to fits) from filenes...i noticed that the inside leg stitching is only a single thread as opposed to the much sturdier double stitches that my older (u.s. made) pairs i've bought in the past have. what's going on here? they seem very low quality in general. are these irregulars or do all the imports come like this now? i'm not a jean expert by any means but i am a loyal levis customer...any info would be appreciated.

--- Original message by ironskulls on Jul 26, 2005 04:38 PM

the inseam on 501 jeans has had a single needle safety topstitch since the 1890s. only 505 jeans and many othe models now have felled inseams. they started doing them in the (1960s? on 517 and othe cuts) the double needle felled inseams (like on 505s or apc jeans) is a cheaper and faster way to do an inseam. the single needle safety stitch on an inseam requies 2 sewing operations, one to serge, the second to the topstitch and uses more thread. double needle felled seams are done on a felling machine in one operation. both are strong,but the single needle is "more premium". the 501 never comes with double needle on the inseam.

sweet-orr

[rhythmandsound]

wow, that's acutally very interesting. I had assumed felled inseams were somehow 'better' or more durable and more difficult to manufacture.

[vitali]

Re: the 501 never comes with double needle on the inseam.

This is not true. Before 2003 redesign, US made 501 had the double stitched inseam. You still can find those in Kohl's (one out of 10, I guess). They were cut a little bit different - higher fron rise etc.

[Serge d Nimes]

I think all Levis had a felled inseam from the end of the redline period in 1983 till the recent re-design.

Carpe Denim!

[sweet orr]

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I think all Levis had a felled inseam from the end of the redline period in 1983 till the recent re-design.

--- Original message by Serge d Nimes on Jul 27, 2005 10:31 AM

ive never seen a felled inseam on a 501. maybe im wrong, but i dont think ive ever seen one.

sweet-orr

[sweet orr]

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I think all Levis had a felled inseam from the end of the redline period in 1983 till the recent re-design.

--- Original message by Serge d Nimes on Jul 27, 2005 10:31 AM

ive never seen a felled inseam on a 501. maybe im wrong, but i dont think ive ever seen one.

--- Original message by sweet orr on Jul 27, 2005 08:19 PM

i stand corrected. i just looked at one on ebay.

sweet-orr