Sometimes it IS your fault if you get raped.

[Guest StuckOnStupid]

from the irak blog:

isnt this kind of thing akin to like...climbing into the lion cage?

[wEstSidE]

You read the irak blog???

jungle gym...

and ur indian.

[broneck]

i read a cosmo once, a story about a girl being raped by a drunk guy she was seeing.

the tale was spun something like "he started kissing me heavily and then, before i knew it, we were both naked."

BEFORE I KNEW IT? what the fuck does that even mean? she was the sobre one here. there's no 15 minute blackout for her, she just didn't notice that she was taking her clothes off? so the guy pulls out a dome, and she says "you dont need that, as we're not having sex" so the guy tosses the rubber away and fucks her bareback. now, i'm as sensitive as the next guy, and i dont think there's any "asking for it" like when girls dress like tramps, but you were naked with a drunk guy you're seeing saying shit like "you dont need a condom". use your fucking brain stupid girl.

[mis]

[Guest StuckOnStupid]

You read the irak blog???

jungle gym...

and ur indian.

yeah, i read it, and? look man, you and yr fuckin zebra leotard wearin neu-rave ass are in no position to be tossin around "homo" at anyone.

[mr fluffernutter]

yeah, i read it, and? look man, you and yr fuckin zebra leotard wearin neu-rave ass are in no position to be tossin around "homo" at anyone.

He hath not callt ye a homo, chilleth SOS

[wEstSidE]

if that's me in the pics and not some stunt double.

keep in mind that i'm a janitor at a university in central jerz.

[Sayword]

[notesee]

Sick mohawk, Dash.

And Kunle .. get some fuckin lotion for them ashy ass legs.

[Guest StuckOnStupid]

hahaha daaaamn thats ashy larry

[Brooklyn Zoo]

young jeezy to the rescue.

[cultpop 0217]

not trying to sound the rightous alarm here but no one ever deserves to be raped. if they asked for it then its not rape. but the girl in the og post is an idiot none the less.

[wEstSidE]

Who says this is about deserving it? Being stupid can result in death. No one deserves to die, but it is their fault for being an idiot. I think the same concept applies here. Certainly rape shouldn't be the punishment for making a bad choice, but it's impossible not to blame her. One has to question her intentions if what she's saying is true. Complicated shit.

[beefcake]

it's never your fault if you're raped. is it really that hard to get that? i expect to be able to walk down the street with nothing but a raw selvage thong with "I LIKE COCK IN THE ASS" printed on it, without some dude thinking he has the right to jump me and fuck me in the ass with force even though i say no as he's pushing his limp dick against my anus. why? because i believe in freedom of expression and speech, but not in freedom to put-your-dick-anywhere-you-think-it-might-feel-nice-without-the-other-persons-consent.

and why is it impossible not to blame her? how can it not be the dudes fault that he rapes her? you should be able to get in any car at any time of the day with whoever in it, without that saying "its ok if you rape me. i did get in your car late at night after all. that must mean i want your cock."

if a guy interprets the girls entry into the car that late as "i want to fuck you! even if you force it if i say no!" he's a fuckhead and should have his cock removed for the sake of humanity. and guys who question the girls intelligence for entering the car instead of the guys retardation thinking its ok to rape have their priorities messed up.

its fucked to say anyone has it coming or deserves it or that its their fault. it never is. fuck rape and fuck the dudes raping, and fuck anyone even remotely defending rapists.

[mono14]

If you go to school with a shit stain on your pants and a piece of toilet paper stuck on your shoes, would it be strange for you to get made fun of...?

[fadingblue]

it's never your fault if you're raped. is it really that hard to get that? i expect to be able to walk down the street with nothing but a raw selvage thong with "I LIKE COCK IN THE ASS" printed on it, without some dude thinking he has the right to jump me and fuck me in the ass with force even though i say no as he's pushing his limp dick against my anus. why? because i believe in freedom of expression and speech, but not in freedom to put-your-dick-anywhere-you-think-it-might-feel-nice-without-the-other-persons-consent.

and why is it impossible not to blame her? how can it not be the dudes fault that he rapes her? you should be able to get in any car at any time of the day with whoever in it, without that saying "its ok if you rape me. i did get in your car late at night after all. that must mean i want your cock."

if a guy interprets the girls entry into the car that late as "i want to fuck you! even if you force it if i say no!" he's a fuckhead and should have his cock removed for the sake of humanity. and guys who question the girls intelligence for entering the car instead of the guys retardation thinking its ok to rape have their priorities messed up.

its fucked to say anyone has it coming or deserves it or that its their fault. it never is. fuck rape and fuck the dudes raping, and fuck anyone even remotely defending rapists.

stop that utopian shit.

nobody is free.

anything you do creates an image which people percieve as they want and dressing like a ho and hitchiking at 4:30 in the morning doesnt scream prude

[beefcake]

If you go to school with a shit stain on your pants and a piece of toilet paper stuck on your shoes, would it be strange for you to get made fun of...?

it wouldn't be strange, but would it be right? the best way to deal with it? you're saying bullying is something some people deserve too? instead of saying "hey dude, you've got some shit on your pants and a TP on your shoe. you'd probably want to deal with that."?

[beefcake]

stop that utopian shit.

nobody is free.

anything you do creates an image which people percieve as they want and dressing like a ho and hitchiking at 4:30 in the morning doesnt scream prude

wow. so she had it coming; she deserved it? any woman who's not prude and in bed by 11 should be considered fair game to rape, or where do you draw the line? i believe anyone should be able to dress pretty much however they want and hitchhike whenever they want without being raped. thats the ground rule for me in this argument.

it would be interesting to hear when you think that the way you dress or act makes it ok for someone to force themselves on You against your will and use violence to have sex with you. guys get raped too. when is it ok? when have you dressed or acted so "slutty" that you deserve to go by ambulance to the hospital cause you're beaten up and bleeding from your ass?

[fadingblue]

i didnt use the word "deserve" once in my post. i dont know where you gettin this shit from

[beefcake]

i didnt use the word "deserve" once in my post. i dont know where you gettin this shit from

i never said you did. read it again; i asked you if you thought she deserved it, since you're saying:

anything you do creates an image which people percieve as they want and dressing like a ho and hitchiking at 4:30 in the morning doesnt scream prude

as if dressing like a "ho" and hitchhiking early in the morning justifies rape. thats how i read it and thats why i responded like i did. if you ment something else then please do explain what you did mean.

[insidertrading]

^

i don't think anyone here is trying to defend rapists.

the broad got raped so she's a victim, true, but it was her naivety that got her into the ordeal. once she stepped into the car, she ignored what amount of risk any reasonable individual could discern in such a situation.

being attacked and raped whilst walking down the street is a different matter. this fool willingly gets into a stranger's car at 4:30 am on a saturday morning, alone. it'd be comparable to diamonds purposely dropping the soap in the louisiana state penitentiary at angola just to "see" what would happen. sure the rapist is guilty for being a rapist, but to allow yourself to be in such a situation, you'd have to be pretty fucking stupid.

[wEstSidE]

that's basically the point i made; i don't think he actually was paying much attention. maybe he just doesn't agree with that, and expects everyone should be able to do whatever the fuck they want without being fucked with. doesn't make sense. if you go around acting in a way society finds unacceptable, then someone is gonna fuck you up. it's the same shit the other way around.

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[Pandemonium]

ever heard of a woman raping a man?

'oh that guy's asking for it.'

[cheep]

funny story... my father claimes he was raped by a friend of his he called "fat harriet"

he was tripping on acid, and according to him he opened his eyes and she was riding his cock.

i knew her, and the story seems very likely.

[beefcake]

^

i don't think anyone here is trying to defend rapists.

the broad got raped so she's a victim, true, but it was her naivety that got her into the ordeal. once she stepped into the car, she ignored what amount of risk any reasonable individual could discern in such a situation.

being attacked and raped whilst walking down the street is a different matter. this fool willingly gets into a stranger's car at 4:30 am on a saturday morning, alone. it'd be comparable to diamonds purposely dropping the soap in the louisiana state penitentiary at angola just to "see" what would happen. sure the rapist is guilty for being a rapist, but to allow yourself to be in such a situation, you'd have to be pretty fucking stupid.

i think we basically agree. i just dont like it when it sounds like you guys say that if you're stupid, you deserve to be raped. maybe its just me who's 'hearing' that.

maybe he just doesn't agree with that, and expects everyone should be able to do whatever the fuck they want without being fucked with. doesn't make sense. if you go around acting in a way society finds unacceptable, then someone is gonna fuck you up. it's the same shit the other way around.

i think your post is pretty offensive. i do believe that a woman should be able to do "whatever she wants" without the risk of being raped; for example hitchhiking at 4:30 AM dressed like what some people might consider "a slut". in my book that's not something that makes rape OK.

you're seriously saying that some people has rape coming and thats ok, because of how they "act in a way that society finds unacceptable"?

jesus. i hope i'm not understanding you correctly.

[datasupa]

perhaps i can clarify. if i'm reading the above posts correctly, it seems no one is absolving the rapist. the raping is unquestionably atrocious and to be condemned. that is not the issue.

the question is, are people accountable for their own actions that may lead to their getting harmed? does the woman have no fault or contribution to the situation?

i think a good analogy would be, a woman walking through the worst part of harlem while sporting a mink coat, and lots of jewels, and alone, at 4:30 saturday morning. of course, in an ideal utopian society, she should be able to do this if she so chooses. but in our actual real world society, is she smart to do this? it's not that society finds her behavior 'unacceptable,' it's stupid because it increases risk to herself. period.

another example: a guy wearing a 'fuck iraq' t-shirt walking the streets of baghdad. in a perfect world, he should be 'free' to do whatever he pleases without getting molested. but.....would you have sympathy for him if he got himself shot?

no one is saying that if you're stupid, you deserve what you get. however, if you don't take into consideration the realities of the world and different situations, you are increasing the chance you'll come to harm. if you ignore these realities and something bad inevitably happens, it's harder to feel sympathy even though it's still pretty tragic.

[cheep]

in the wild, stupid animals die quick. getting into a car with a stranger at 4:30 in the morning in a big city is fucking stupid. getting naked with a drunk guy you dont intend to fuck is stupid.

what happend is not right, but it follows the laws of nature.

[naturaljax]

getting naked with a drunk guy you dont intend to fuck is stupid.

Man, no kidding. At all.

[onemancult]

i think a good analogy would be, a woman walking through the worst part of harlem while sporting a mink coat, and lots of jewels, and alone, at 4:30 saturday morning. of course, in an ideal utopian society, she should be able to do this if she so chooses. but in our actual real world society, is she smart to do this? it's not that society finds her behavior 'unacceptable,' it's stupid because it increases risk to herself. period.

please tell me you're from new york.