sugarcane 1947

[poly800rock]

I've been eyeing a pair of 1947 Sugarcanes on Historypresevation site, does anyone know of the quality of these vs. the Levi's ones? Any help would be appreciated.

[ringring]

snap 'em up

'Canes are good.

[poly800rock]

anyone know the actual width of the leg on these? I'm kind of getting tired of jeans that seem to be too small. The leg opening? thanks

tons of stuff for sale now on ebay: corpus, hollywood ranch, levi's premium, vintage etc.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtriggerkid

[Serge d Nimes]

probably like 9". they are levi's copies, so they won't be far off from vintage 501.

Carpe Denim!

[TragicBliss]

Sugar Canes look sick, too bad I can't have that baggy ass look of a super high rise 501ish jeans.

http://www.tragicbliss.com

[Guest DenimBar1]

tragicbliss-

incredible website.

Where can I find the contact info for sugarcane?

[spitzbrg]

Quote:

probably like 9". they are levi's copies, so they won't be far off from vintage 501.

--- Original message by Serge d Nimes on Jul 6, 2005 10:37 PM

Hey Serge, Of course you are entitled to your opinion but I personally don't think they are Levi's copies. If that was the case, almost every jean in the world would be a Levi's copy. Sugar Cane 1947 in addition to almost every other vintage jean in Japan are standard 5-pockets. These types of jeans IMO are too special to be copies. The Japanese are also way too innovative to copy. You've probably noticed that many brands in Japan also use the "Red Tab" which again is quite standard over there. I personally wouldn't say Levi's copies though..

Is every t-shirt a Haines copy? Is every car a Ford copy? Is every baseball cap a "?" copy? Is every pair of underwear a "?" copy? etc..etc..etc.

Edited by spitzbrg on Jul 7, 2005 at 07:17 AM

[juxtaposed]

i dont think he meant it that way spitzbrg, serge knows his denim way to good, he is a pro..one of the top 5 guys here probably. i think he just wanted to say they have a plain 5 pocket design. (aka levis copy)

[clintyclint]

Interesting.. So does this mean that all males are copies of Adam and all females are copies of Eve?

[YoungPunch]

Link:

http://www.sugarcane.jp/

company contact info:

http://www.toyo-enterprise.co.jp/about.html

Its all in japanese, you could call or email them. Someone there probably can speak english.

[darknworn]

those sugar cane 1947 are actually copies of the levi's 501 1947.

http://historypreservation.com/hpassociates/detailpop.php?uniqnum=126

the japanese is an innovative bunch, but it doesn't mean they won't make a copy of what's good. i agree though japanese jeans are head and shoulders above what's coming out of america.

"God is Dead" - Neitzsche

"Neitzsche is Dead" - God

[spitzbrg]

Additional standard 5-pockets out of Japan

http://www.rakuten.co.jp/bears/516563/

Another good link

http://www.rakuten.co.jp/bears/index.html

Edited by spitzbrg on Jul 7, 2005 at 08:17 AM

[Serge d Nimes]

That is what I meant, the Sugarcane 1947 is a copy of 1947 Levis, therfore it fits similar to 1947 Levis. They are not to be confused with contemporary jeans.

Carpe Denim!

[johnmc]

Definately levi copies - but way better than LVC imo

[hahnstch]

fake sugar cane on ebay?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11483&item=3982232694&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V

[hahnstch]

and john, why do you think canes are better than lvc?

[woejozney]

lvc looks way nicer than sugar canes.

[rabbitpunch]

Does anyone else find it weird that so many Japanese brands are basically making straight up 501 repros and nothing else? Check out rakuten - almost every pair is a spitting image, down to the red tab and diagonal stitch line at the top button.

I know none of this is new, but I think it's a little... overwrought. Repros are fine, the denim and finishing on jeans like Eternal, Samurai, Yen, and Denime are wicked, but what about innovation and creativity? Is the end of the 501 repro in sight?

[johnmc]

Quote:

and john, why do you think canes are better than lvc?

--- Original message by hahnstch on Jul 7, 2005 06:24 PM

imo the denim they use for sugar cane is much more like the original than lvc. levi's just see their history as a marketing tool - sugar cane are far more dedicated to producing an authentic product

http://ocn.amikai.com/amiweb/browser.jsp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sugarcane.jp%2Fstandard.html&display=2&langpair=2%2C1&c_id=ocn〈=JA&toolbar=yes

Edited by johnmc on Jul 7, 2005 at 10:14 PM

Edited by johnmc on Jul 7, 2005 at 10:19 PM

[Serge d Nimes]

Agreed. I think even APC denim shows better contrast than LVC. The indigo is not rich like the real ones from the 40's till the end of the single stitch era. I have had much better luck from evisu, warehouse, dude ranch, and denime, although I don't really like denime all that much. I have never had any canes, but I am really itching for a pair. I would have done anythig to get a pair 4 years ago!

Carpe Denim!

[Serge d Nimes]

from that link you posted:

"Vomit the taste of vintage denim"

I love translators!

Carpe Denim!

[juxtaposed]

Quote: know none of this is new, but I think it's a little... overwrought. Repros are fine, the denim and finishing on jeans like Eternal, Samurai, Yen, and Denime are wicked, but what about innovation and creativity? Is the end of the 501 repro in sight?

the 501 cut is timeless and classic, there is no better fit for denim. period.

and the japanes dont want to elaborate and improve cuts or fits, cause there is nothing to improve. its about denim creation, cotton, dyes, sewing, details,rivets, patches...

if you want some other cut, you are in danger to become some fashionista, whose jeans are played in 2 years, like all the US brands (seven, true religion).

its about making a classic product, and wearing til it gets all the natural marks, creases.

IMHO its the most authentic product you can have. cause you developed it, and its pathina gives it kind of a personality..(sounds cheesy, but dont now how to say it right)