Visvim F/W 2013

[dieseldan]

 

What price would you place on these?

[lithiumsys]

I sold a pair of those a few years back for $250, which was a steal. You can probably get 300-350 for them I'd say.

[Pampico]

How do you spot fake visvim?

 

I know you've been hearing this question a lot, but I've been searching through forums and never get the exact answer.

 

I find these lhamo shirts one wash, but I'm not sure about the authenticity of them. Are these fakes? And how to identify it?

 

This one:

 

 

 

 

And also this one:

 

 

I am sorry for posting this here, but you guys are the experts.

[Fycus]

those both look fine. Thus far the fakes that are out there are pretty obvious, and nothing in those is directly telling me they are fake. As long as the wrist buttons are mismatched and there is paint chipping, you're golden.

[dieseldan]

Does anyone have any info on these? Year, price?

[Vinneus]

Looks like he cleaned up the virgil boot a bit... no heel stabilizer and the chunkiest sole to date.

Edited November 29, 2013 by Vinneus

[aso2004]

Vibergs ahead !!!

[Fycus]

terrible without the stabilizer imo, it gave it a really nice balanced look. Dig the detailing at the heel. All of these are just attempts to thwart away counterfeiters imo. If you look at taobao, they already copied the ss13 suede virgils with colored stabilizers, and while they arent perfect the ignorant will definitely be duped.

[grav.itas]

I've always wondered: the taobao site, is that factory 2nds? Cause damn they look really close to the originals. Even the details and shit r down pat

[Fycus]

not seconds per se, definitely fakes. But I can almost guarantee at least one of the fakes out there are made from the same factories after visvim pushes their product. Access to resources, leathers, etc make it easier to replicate these shoes. Lets say visvim cleans the line out, the factory will still know how to make the shoes after the fact, so they can sell patterns off to other factories or just produce themselves using cheaper materials and less labor intensive production. Obviously they can probably get caught or screwed because its under contract, but its china and basically the wild west (east?) out here. If you really look at the new fake virgils, the differences are pretty apparent. Poor font on the tpu heel, they used a different last for the shoes so the toebox doesnt match the classic virgil. The norwegian welt tape isn't stamped as clearly as the regular visvim models, and the vibram plainsole in the regular models has a shimmied piece of foam under the heel, adding a little weight to the back of the shoe but something that a replica won't have because its too labor intensive.

Edited November 29, 2013 by Fycus

[halberdklown]

Looks a little like flat laces too. I'll admit, although many didn't like the TPU heel, there was a certain charm to it. 

 

Here's to hoping this is only for a one-time spot item, since I'm still hoping to get the classic old Kngr Virgil when it gets released again. 

[Switch]

fresh details are nice, unsure on thickness of soles but would like to see a better pic or the same that isn't oof.

[atlr]

I really like the new thickness of the sole. approaching Russell Moccasin territory. New heel detail looks interesting a well. Are these ss14?

[Vinneus]

nope they release in two weeks.

[herpsky]

Does anyone have any info on these? Year, price?

I had the same exact pair.

I'm guessing these are the OG FBTs. I bought my pair back ini 2006 at the Huf in Hayes for like 185. 

I think the Japanese retail was 22500 yen. 

[LightVII]

Good old days when FBTs were in the 20k~ range.

[kiya]

Good old days when FBTs were in the 20k~ range.

 

I got my first Visvim 20L bag for $170 at Huf in 2006, i think retail was about $270.  Looking back on that i should have bought every bag they had in stock.

Edited November 30, 2013 by kiya

[Fycus]

spot items: brigs (brown, camel, navy suede) and virgils (burgundy, black and dk brown leather, sand and lt brown suede. really want some dark brown virgils, but just dropped some heavy cash on jawns plus just got off vacation.....Maybe i'll have self control until spring.

Edited November 30, 2013 by Fycus

[seenmy]

how do the kerchief down jackets fit?regular ie same size as outwear or snugger?

[Fycus]

I just tried kerchief on last weekend. I fit a 4 in everything and a 4 fit spot on. It definitely fits snug, but if you look at a pic with hiroki wearing it going tts will yield the same result. Hope that helps...

[seenmy]

thanks thats helpful, I'm a 3 in all my outwear and that was what I was looking at

[winstonrodney...]

sorry to muddy the waters but most bods on here who've got kerchief have all sized up i believe ?

i did with my kofu insulator and was def the right move

 

saying that, it seems to me that if you never intend to button it up you may get away with reg size

[aso2004]

 

What price would you place on these?

I bought these when they came out...

 

185 euro, I thought I was going mad in 2002.. Thy have proven to be bombproof unlike many follow ups to these...

The sock liner and high grade insole are ace.

And so were the details stitching on the nose, punch outs on the nose and a tie in overlay..

Edited November 30, 2013 by aso2004

[seenmy]

sorry to muddy the waters but most bods on here who've got kerchief have all sized up i believe ?

i did with my kofu insulator and was def the right move

 

saying that, it seems to me that if you never intend to button it up you may get away with reg size

thanks mate, I'm gonna try the wool check version on monday in a 4 and see what I think, its the ict bandanna one I want to get but will have to assume the basic fit will be similar as closest option. just got the valdez in which in my opinion is one of best jackets visvim has ever made

[pepper davies]

re: taobao virgils - does the factory produce boots for any other brands?

 

very into the new virgils

[Fycus]

no idea, sellers on taobao are just retailers, never factory direct. I'm sure if you did some sleuthing and if you knew somebody who lives in China, you might be able to find the mfr but it would not be easy. 

 

Also wrt to the kerchief, the wool check version suppsedly fits a tiny bit slimmer due to the fabric. The patterns were cut the same, but the bandana kerchief has thinner outer fabric. I was able to button my size 4 all the way just fine, but maybe if you are in between sizes sizing up is recommended. 

[rayLo]

terrible without the stabilizer imo, it gave it a really nice balanced look. Dig the detailing at the heel. All of these are just attempts to thwart away counterfeiters imo. If you look at taobao, they already copied the ss13 suede virgils with colored stabilizers, and while they arent perfect the ignorant will definitely be duped.

 

agreed, I wouldn't say terrible, but the older pairs are much better. the heel details are nice but I'm not a fan of the soles. 

[winstonrodney...]

@seenmy. i'm guessing you're going for orange?? still after a brown or light blue myself.

 

hmmm the valdez - thats's proper!

[seenmy]

good guess, would love the beige but have not seen any come up

[Fycus]

The beige is seriously the tits, I have not seen any in person though unfortunately.