Literal forum of public opinion- Damaged goods sold to me from 6MT

[yawn]

In my opinion, this is the internet version of inspecting an item in a vintage store or at a garage sale. These people can't reasonably be expected to make any money with people making returns for little things they failed to notice on what are, admittedly, possibly second hand goods.

they also don't claim their goods are undamaged.

[yawn]

In my opinion, this is the internet version of inspecting an item in a vintage store or at a garage sale. These people can't reasonably be expected to make any money with people making returns for little things they failed to notice on what are, admittedly, possibly second hand goods.

they also don't claim their goods are undamaged.

[poly800rock]

the point is would you buy a raw denim that had been soak by some one else?

i've SOLD denim that i've had cut and i soaked myself..

[poly800rock]

the point is would you buy a raw denim that had been soak by some one else?

i've SOLD denim that i've had cut and i soaked myself..

[yawn]

the point is would you buy a raw denim that had been soak by some one else?

i don't understand why this is supposed to be his concern.

[yawn]

the point is would you buy a raw denim that had been soak by some one else?

i don't understand why this is supposed to be his concern.

[6MT]

As for the restocking fee. That is a little silly IMO, because then 6MT has jeans very similar to the ones he sold me under false pretences (albeit possibly innocent, even though he showed a propensity to lie as per the date mailed), and I would pay for nothing.

are you calling me liar??????

it is so rude for yout od do that, i have not accuse you of anything.....

[6MT]

As for the restocking fee. That is a little silly IMO, because then 6MT has jeans very similar to the ones he sold me under false pretences (albeit possibly innocent, even though he showed a propensity to lie as per the date mailed), and I would pay for nothing.

are you calling me liar??????

it is so rude for yout od do that, i have not accuse you of anything.....

[6MT]

i don't understand why this is supposed to be his concern.

becuase he soak the denim already. and it is only fair for him to considerate and reason.

[6MT]

i don't understand why this is supposed to be his concern.

becuase he soak the denim already. and it is only fair for him to considerate and reason.

[greentea]

i sell the canes as how it was given to me, and every pair i inspect them briefly and if i didn't see the flaw that means when sugar cane ship the jeans to my friend their QC didn't see them either.

and for those of you who received canes from me, i believed i have ship you all 1st quality canes.

i can vouch for 6mt, i was one of the first few that purchased 66 canes from him a while back. tough position,hope you guys square things.

[greentea]

i sell the canes as how it was given to me, and every pair i inspect them briefly and if i didn't see the flaw that means when sugar cane ship the jeans to my friend their QC didn't see them either.

and for those of you who received canes from me, i believed i have ship you all 1st quality canes.

i can vouch for 6mt, i was one of the first few that purchased 66 canes from him a while back. tough position,hope you guys square things.

[cultpop 0217]

Cult pop, The flaw is behind the knee. On the same token should 6MT not have inspected the goods before he shipped? If the flaw was so easy to miss in packaging, is it not fair to have missed before soaking. Is the value that reduced by making them one wash? I still have tags, if this matters. Does the damage effect me that much, probably not, assuming it does not get worse, BUT, I never would have bought them if this was the case.

Would you guys be ok if this happend to you from a store? Should it be different from private sellers in our community. These are serious questions.

As for the restocking fee. That is a little silly IMO, because then 6MT has jeans very similar to the ones he sold me under false pretences (albeit possibly innocent, even though he showed a propensity to lie as per the date mailed), and I would pay for nothing.

i think someone selling jeans is less likely to examine the jeans with a fine tooth comb than someone who will be wearing said jeans.

i for one would like to think that if i recieved a pair of fine japanese denims i would definately make sure they were ok before throwing them in water. maybe its just me.

as for the restocking fee i think its definately fair. you soaked your raw jeans without properly inspecting them and 6mt is not a bricks and mortar retail store as servo has said, he is a small business and a middleman and should not be held to the same standard as a larger operation who can simply return them as damaged to the supplier.

i would say the fact that the "damage" is behind the knee and you got these from an individual for, lets face it, a great price, and you soaked them already you should be a little more willing to compromise (which you dont really seem willing to do.)

and to say he has a "propensity to lie" because he shipped them a day later is a bit unfair and reactionary dont you think?

and yes i think the fact that he soaked them is important.

and minya, to use the car analogy the defect is something akin to a mark in the paint or a small ding in the bumper. i think a dealership would just repair the damage or offer a small discount but not refund the car for the full purchase price.

bottom line. they both should take a bit of a loss on this and be more careful (and less reactionary) in the (super) future.

[cultpop 0217]

Cult pop, The flaw is behind the knee. On the same token should 6MT not have inspected the goods before he shipped? If the flaw was so easy to miss in packaging, is it not fair to have missed before soaking. Is the value that reduced by making them one wash? I still have tags, if this matters. Does the damage effect me that much, probably not, assuming it does not get worse, BUT, I never would have bought them if this was the case.

Would you guys be ok if this happend to you from a store? Should it be different from private sellers in our community. These are serious questions.

As for the restocking fee. That is a little silly IMO, because then 6MT has jeans very similar to the ones he sold me under false pretences (albeit possibly innocent, even though he showed a propensity to lie as per the date mailed), and I would pay for nothing.

i think someone selling jeans is less likely to examine the jeans with a fine tooth comb than someone who will be wearing said jeans.

i for one would like to think that if i recieved a pair of fine japanese denims i would definately make sure they were ok before throwing them in water. maybe its just me.

as for the restocking fee i think its definately fair. you soaked your raw jeans without properly inspecting them and 6mt is not a bricks and mortar retail store as servo has said, he is a small business and a middleman and should not be held to the same standard as a larger operation who can simply return them as damaged to the supplier.

i would say the fact that the "damage" is behind the knee and you got these from an individual for, lets face it, a great price, and you soaked them already you should be a little more willing to compromise (which you dont really seem willing to do.)

and to say he has a "propensity to lie" because he shipped them a day later is a bit unfair and reactionary dont you think?

and yes i think the fact that he soaked them is important.

and minya, to use the car analogy the defect is something akin to a mark in the paint or a small ding in the bumper. i think a dealership would just repair the damage or offer a small discount but not refund the car for the full purchase price.

bottom line. they both should take a bit of a loss on this and be more careful (and less reactionary) in the (super) future.

[6MT]

i can vouch for 6mt, i was one of the first few that purchased 66 canes from him a while back. tough position,hope you guys square things.

thanks, and hows you canes doing?

[6MT]

i can vouch for 6mt, i was one of the first few that purchased 66 canes from him a while back. tough position,hope you guys square things.

thanks, and hows you canes doing?

[jwied82]

I really dont see what the big deal is with the small flaw. if i saw a pair of jeans that i wanted new in a store and was able to get them for a pretty good price, but noticed a small flaw in the denim (in a somewhat inconspicuous spot), i wouldn't hesitate to buy them.

Yeah, i understand you werent expecting this,and 6mt probably should have noticed it, but its not like it ruins the jeans.

If anything i would think you devalued them more by soaking them than the flaw would have in the first place.

[jwied82]

I really dont see what the big deal is with the small flaw. if i saw a pair of jeans that i wanted new in a store and was able to get them for a pretty good price, but noticed a small flaw in the denim (in a somewhat inconspicuous spot), i wouldn't hesitate to buy them.

Yeah, i understand you werent expecting this,and 6mt probably should have noticed it, but its not like it ruins the jeans.

If anything i would think you devalued them more by soaking them than the flaw would have in the first place.

[6MT]

i think someone selling jeans is less likely to examine the jeans with a fine tooth comb than someone who will be wearing said jeans.

i for one would like to think that if i recieved a pair of fine japanese denims i would definately make sure they were ok before throwing them in water. maybe its just me.

as for the restocking fee i think its definately fair. you soaked your raw jeans without properly inspecting them and 6mt is not a bricks and mortar retail store as servo has said, he is a small business and a middleman and should not be held to the same standard as a larger operation who can simply return them as damaged to the supplier.

i would say the fact that the "damage" is behind the knee and you got these from an individual for, lets face it, a great price, and you soaked them already you should be a little more willing to compromise (which you dont really seem willing to do.)

and to say he has a "propensity to lie" because he shipped them a day later is a bit unfair and reactionary dont you think?

and yes i think the fact that he soaked them is important.

and minya, to use the car analogy the defect is something akin to a mark in the paint or a small ding in the bumper. i think a dealership would just repair the damage or offer a small discount but not refund the car for the full purchase price.

thank you, and thats how i felt, and i have offered several solution to hewsinator, unfortunatly he wouldn't accept them.

minya if you could, why dont you open all the transaction PM between me and hewsinator to the public. i think it will show i'm a honest seller and i have been very patient and i had offered solutions in fair and reason ways.

[6MT]

i think someone selling jeans is less likely to examine the jeans with a fine tooth comb than someone who will be wearing said jeans.

i for one would like to think that if i recieved a pair of fine japanese denims i would definately make sure they were ok before throwing them in water. maybe its just me.

as for the restocking fee i think its definately fair. you soaked your raw jeans without properly inspecting them and 6mt is not a bricks and mortar retail store as servo has said, he is a small business and a middleman and should not be held to the same standard as a larger operation who can simply return them as damaged to the supplier.

i would say the fact that the "damage" is behind the knee and you got these from an individual for, lets face it, a great price, and you soaked them already you should be a little more willing to compromise (which you dont really seem willing to do.)

and to say he has a "propensity to lie" because he shipped them a day later is a bit unfair and reactionary dont you think?

and yes i think the fact that he soaked them is important.

and minya, to use the car analogy the defect is something akin to a mark in the paint or a small ding in the bumper. i think a dealership would just repair the damage or offer a small discount but not refund the car for the full purchase price.

thank you, and thats how i felt, and i have offered several solution to hewsinator, unfortunatly he wouldn't accept them.

minya if you could, why dont you open all the transaction PM between me and hewsinator to the public. i think it will show i'm a honest seller and i have been very patient and i had offered solutions in fair and reason ways.

[cultpop 0217]

If anything i would think you devalued them more by soaking them than the flaw would have in the first place.

i agree with this completely.

[cultpop 0217]

If anything i would think you devalued them more by soaking them than the flaw would have in the first place.

i agree with this completely.

[yawn]

as for the restocking fee i think its definately fair. you soaked your raw jeans without properly inspecting them and 6mt is not a bricks and mortar retail store as servo has said, he is a small business and a middleman and should not be held to the same standard as a larger operation who can simply return them as damaged to the supplier.

so you're saying what the seller is able to do with the jeans after the return is what is most important and not the fact that the buyer is recompensated for false advertising? the two sellers shouldn't be held to different standards due to the cost it has to them.

[yawn]

as for the restocking fee i think its definately fair. you soaked your raw jeans without properly inspecting them and 6mt is not a bricks and mortar retail store as servo has said, he is a small business and a middleman and should not be held to the same standard as a larger operation who can simply return them as damaged to the supplier.

so you're saying what the seller is able to do with the jeans after the return is what is most important and not the fact that the buyer is recompensated for false advertising? the two sellers shouldn't be held to different standards due to the cost it has to them.

[minya]

minya if you could, why dont you open all the transaction PM between me and hewsinator to the public. i think it will show i'm a honest seller and i have been very patient and i had offered solutions in fair and reason ways.

I don't have access to anyone's PMs but my own.

[minya]

minya if you could, why dont you open all the transaction PM between me and hewsinator to the public. i think it will show i'm a honest seller and i have been very patient and i had offered solutions in fair and reason ways.

I don't have access to anyone's PMs but my own.

[greentea]

I don't have access to anyone's PMs but my own.

thats good to know.

[greentea]

I don't have access to anyone's PMs but my own.

thats good to know.

[cultpop 0217]

so you're saying what the seller is able to do with the jeans after the return is what is most important and not the fact that the buyer is recompensated for false advertising? the two sellers shouldn't be held to different standards due to the cost it has to them.

no im saying hewsinator is partially responsible for the fact that a full refund can not (AND SHOULD NOT) take place because HE SOAKED THE JEANS PRIOR TO NOTICING THE NEARLY INVISIBLE FLAW.

lets not forget we are taking about denim here not linen pants.

in fact i tend to think if he had soaked them, a retail store would look at that flaw and say "too bad you already soaked these"

and to say it was false advertising is unfair to 6mt, who clearly seems to have made an honest mistake.

again they both should compromise here. 6mt seems willing to do so and hews is being unreasonable. remember he only paid $140 for jeans that usaully go for nearly double that.

like i said the item is used. to expect a full refund (on a already heavily discounted item) is a bit unreasonable.

[cultpop 0217]

so you're saying what the seller is able to do with the jeans after the return is what is most important and not the fact that the buyer is recompensated for false advertising? the two sellers shouldn't be held to different standards due to the cost it has to them.

no im saying hewsinator is partially responsible for the fact that a full refund can not (AND SHOULD NOT) take place because HE SOAKED THE JEANS PRIOR TO NOTICING THE NEARLY INVISIBLE FLAW.

lets not forget we are taking about denim here not linen pants.

in fact i tend to think if he had soaked them, a retail store would look at that flaw and say "too bad you already soaked these"

and to say it was false advertising is unfair to 6mt, who clearly seems to have made an honest mistake.

again they both should compromise here. 6mt seems willing to do so and hews is being unreasonable. remember he only paid $140 for jeans that usaully go for nearly double that.

like i said the item is used. to expect a full refund (on a already heavily discounted item) is a bit unreasonable.