if you want to make some real repros... check out this ebay auction

[cheapmuthafukr]

im guessing this undisclosed location is some kind of denim laundry... and they do washes for brands like rogan, pdc, and others.

[dirtbucket]

Yeah.....We were interested in buying the fabric if were real, so we had the Levi's historian check out the acution! We know what the other fabric is that is setting next to the middle fabric. There is not a time stamp.....although we know alot about deadstock fabric because we own several rolls! Those are not pre-90's........

[cramby]

Yes, I have been informed of a very probable date of the denim to the early 90's LVC by Cone. Even though I was told by the fabric outlet that it could be older, I've always felt that because when I found it, (mid 90's) it was quite possible the denim was probably some of Levi's early LVC sample fabric from cone, regardless of what the store owner had said.

Even though I would of liked to have the denim dated to Levi's big "E" period, I'm just glad the fabric doesn't date to the little "e" era because that indigo sucked compared to their LVC denim.

If anyone here on this forum has put in a bid and would like to retract it based on this new info, I'm behind you 100%. However, I do stand by everything as stated in the auction.

And like I stated in the auction "If you're a vintage denim freak like me, than you know that a couple of bolts of dead-stock xx selvage is almost impossible to find, vintage or reproduction. You just can't go down to you're local fabric store and buy selvage denim, unless you're in the apparel industry and want to buy 5000 yards from a mill like Cone or Candiani etc."

Thanks again for the research (you know who you are)

Any questions or more photos you can email me.

Cheers,

Todd

[email protected]

[mizanation]

You just can't go down to you're local fabric store and buy selvage denim, unless you're in the apparel industry and want to buy 5000 yards from a mill like Cone or Candiani etc[/i]."

i guess we're forgetting about sample yardage, but hey, let's not get caught up in the details.

[tweeds]

i don't think it particularly affects the auction in anyway - cramby's still sitting on a good amount of yardage of selvedge, and cone selvedge, and dirtbucket the mystery man (or men), what sort of tell tale signs mark it as mid-90s denim? just out of curiosity.

[dirtbucket]

Sorry about getting back to you guys.......80-90 mile an hour winds just knocked down about every tree on my street causing a power outage for the entire night. You guys that are looking for some incrediable fabric should bid on this auction! Hands Down the fabric on this auction is some of the best fabric out there.........the fabric that is on the end with the white selvage edge is the closest fabric out to the orginal levis of the early 1900's........(loomstate) a friend of mine helped developed it in Japan. It too is early 90's!

[cheapmuthafukr]

is the white selvage roll natural indigo?

[dirtbucket]

Natural Indigo? Just so I answer your question......what is Natural Indigo? The Thread is dipped in indigo and then it is woven together. But I'm not sure exactly what you mean?

[dirtbucket]

Truly,the tell tale signs of the the fabric which place it with a timeline are the what we call hairy.......the fabric comes off the loom looking like it has been washed already.

[cheapmuthafukr]

indigo made from plant sources, as opposed to pure indigo, which is man made.

[cramby]

Here's a couple of photos. Dirtbucket, maybe these will help you explain the last few questions.

cramby

http://www.cramby.com/redline.jpg

http://www.cramby.com/3selvage.jpg

http://www.cramby.com/indigo_compare.jpg

http://www.cramby.com/back_compare.jpg

[dirtbucket]

Thanks for the photos.......the white selvage is the fabric that my friend developed. The redline fabric is what LVC uses in their current lines......both fabrics are used by LVC. The White selvage is probably the most popular fabric usesd today... the name of the mill that makes that Fabric is Karabo Japanese.....modled after early Levis fabric. The Fabric is not Natural died.....it is pure indigo. Hope this helps!

[__3xL]

Help me to ID this selvage denim please someone ..

Thanks !

[tweeds]

the denim on the white selvedge looks beautiful.

[dirtbucket]

I have no idea with out feeling it.......where did you get it?

[tweeds]

you know the denim laundry business sounds like something pretty cool. if i love the smell of jeans and i want to roll about in denim all day should i send my resume

[pacioli]

you know the denim laundry business sounds like something pretty cool. if i love the smell of jeans and i want to roll about in denim all day should i send my resume

You'd also have to like the smell of pumice stones, resin, tint, potassium pergmagnate, sand, cotton dust, and various chemicals. Laundries don't really smell all that great.

Other than that wash houses are awesome. There is a lot of innovation going on in that part of the denim world.

[tweeds]

how does one get involved in this field? how did you guys get into this (very very specialised) area of work? is it any different from any other job: dragging yourself out of bed, dreading mondays after drinking on sundays...etc.

[dirtbucket]

The Denim Business is really cool.....always excepting resume' if anyone is interested! I love my job! I get to work with really cool people, and not to mention some of the best designers in the world! And I no longer have to pay for Jeans which is an added bonus!

[dirtbucket]

Pacioli....do you work at a laundry?

[tweeds]

what sort of prior foundation did you have before entering the denim business?

[dirtbucket]

I personally had an Art background......but.....it also helped that the best laundry in the world was in my hometown!

[the orb]

Just buy Crate - vintage denim and they actually know how to make a pair!

[tweeds]

there're no denim laundries, or anything even remotely associated with quality denim processing here.

interesting. so there aren't really any pre-requisites to entering the industry, just to know the right contacts?