marmot or northface

[rabka]

im going to europe for two weeks and i decided to buy a new backpack i could use for school and the trip.

http://marmot.com/products/product.php?cat=packs&subcat=14&style_id=H2697

i like the marmot because of its functionality and organization. Also the material feels good and i like the padding for the laptop holder.

the other bag is the northface heckler...it is simpler in terms of function than the marmot...but i think it;s better looking. I cnat find it online...but it's an 80 dollar bag sort of liek the recon i guess.

what's a better bet? I'm leaning towards the northface...

[herpsky]

how about some arcteryx

[6MT]

i think the marmot looks nice, and very durable

[6MT]

but what i would really like is the military issue back packs, they are really nice and function really well also

[KidDynamite]

Both are good. Some of the new Marmots have that stitchless construction which drops the pack's weight considerably. Not sure if that pack has it...

[canice]

north face packs are notoriously useless for actual travel/expedition.

if you want a decent travel pack go for a vaude or arcteryx.

[KidDynamite]

north face packs are notoriously useless for actual travel/expedition.

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Ummm, not really, but whatever you want to believe...

The Catalyst was backpacker's pack of the year last year.

http://www.backcountry.com/store/TNF1317/The-North-Face-Catalyst-75-Backpack-4300-4900cu-in.html?mv_pc=r126&CP=Froogle&CMP=SPC-Froogle&ATT=061506&GCID=C2000x025&keyword=catalyst+75+backpack+4300+4900cu+in

[red]

when it comes to outdoor gear, im partial to patagonia.

[Carl]

when it comes to outdoor gear, im partial to patagonia.

Amen.

The fuck is this 10 charachter rule bullshit...

[werdtoyourmoms]

i just picked up an osprey for a similar trip.

[rabka]

i decided to go for the nortface....there were a few things about the gunnison which i didnt like....for example their is this protruding flip board thing (idk what it is) which hangs loosely and looks pretty bad.. anyways i saved some money .... im content

[sygyzy]

I have a Marmot Shell and I really like it. They have great attention to detail and it always keeps me dry. Good luck,

[mighty_dope]

north face. why even the debate ?!

[RAISED BY WOLVES]

Why the debate?

Because ever since the hood and then consequently the suburbs bought into the face, they have realized that they can lower the overall quality of their gear with out many complaints. Granted some of the serious Sleeping bags and their 4 season tents are still decent, but they're commitment to customer service is non-existent. If you have a bag from 95/96 or earlier, you are still good, but now these fools are out there with giant cotton logo hoodies, and women's bubble trench coats that wouldn't last a fuckin day out of NY. Patagonia has consistently replaced ANYTHING I have ever had a problem with, and my pops regularly returns his work jeans for new ones if he blows them out. Yvonne Chinard (patagonia founder) is a stand up guy, and has gone from selling pitons, and tech gear out of a shack, to the buisness model you see today. So support that shit...

[red]

there you have it. patagonia support from me, carl, and a guy raised by wolves. we won.

[lindt]

how about some arcteryx

quoted for truth

[SENDkylHISPASSWORD]

It really DOES NOT MATTER.

The Arcteryx stuff looks the nicest though.

[canice]

Ummm, not really, but whatever you want to believe...

The Catalyst was backpacker's pack of the year last year.

http://www.backcountry.com/store/TNF1317/The-North-Face-Catalyst-75-Backpack-4300-4900cu-in.html?mv_pc=r126&CP=Froogle&CMP=SPC-Froogle&ATT=061506&GCID=C2000x025&keyword=catalyst+75+backpack+4300+4900cu+in

i somehow missed this thread, my bad.

this guy sounds like he's looking for a daypack, not expedition gear. 32 litres isn't much at all, and the shit north face puts out in that category aren't remarkable in their performance in any way (i'm at a loss to see how even the lightest of backpackers could do 2 weeks on such a small bag anyway).

raised by wolves pretty much said it all with regards to quality.