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@Broark How’s the sizing on the 506xx ‘42? I noticed that this jacket measures bigger than the ‘46-‘47 version. My size 48 ‘46-‘47 in one wash is around 60 cm chest and Hoosier’s measurements of size 48 in the ‘42 come in at 65 cm chest.

Honestly we just need to move somewhere more temperate.

I think @Broark needs more jackets. Global Cooling™ is hitting Texas at an alarming rate 😆

Jeans being waist overalls until the 60s Finding the perfect fit now basically results in buying denims with such particular dimensions it nullifies the cut / pattern

As promised, some recent deliveries from Mr. Seiichiro. I also got a handful of tees, didn't photograph those. Won't be able to wear these for a few months but that's okay. 506xx 1942. Blythestone flannel. Lot 100 Ironalls jacket. Deck Worker jacket. S-8 jacket. M-1951 field jacket.

I really tend to not enjoy excess waistband - which is why a more generous cut through the leg is welcome. Sizing up is a look, and yes it seems to be more embraced. I’ve got a couple of pairs I went that route on, but in general it’s nice to have something that fits relatively proper sans belt IMO. In the end I think you get what feels right - sizing down is riskier obviously. Speaking of Full Count - I love the 0105 cut (because you don’t need to size up the waist for something really comfortable) - but their sizing is all over the place. My 29s in the “super smooth” denim feel half to a whole size larger in the waist (but not the rest of the leg) than my size 30 in the black x white. And my 29 super smooths feel about the same as my 32’s in their chinos! They all came in about as expected - I sized right for what I wanted - but the measurements differed so much for a given item size I was doubting myself.

^ I think a lot of it connects to the history of what was available around the middle of the last century, when jeans were starting to gain traction in Japan: my understanding is that most of what they had access to was leftover stock from US soldiers, which would have centered more around the “golden sizes” typical to US men of the time, making them fairly oversized for most Japanese folks. This caught on as the way jeans were expected to fit, and I guess it sort of just stuck.

I went with a 32”, but also asked Speedway for some advice. I’m ok with them being roomier in the top block and overall (in fact, I upsized on a purchase I made at the beginning of the year and have grown to really like the (anti) fit…). Which leads me to something I’ve been thinking about since a trip I took to Japan back in January of 2023 - and I’ve been wondering if any of you have had a similar experience. With the exception of Fullcount, every shop I visited - Freewheelers, warehouse (multiple locations), flat head, Sapporo Base (when I was in Sapporo), etc - the shop employee was trying to get me to size up 1-2-3 sizes from what I would typically wear/buy. And I noticed, in my opinion, that most of the shop workers were wearing jeans well above what their actual size would/should be… I could tell from the way the top block folded back on itself and had that kind of undulation in the fabric between pockets and fly and from the rear a quite saggy bottom. I would say they just wore their jeans very differently and had an overall different idea of how jeans should fit/be worn. When I’ve tried on jeans in the US and EU, it always seems the opposite where a shop employee is trying to get me to size down because of stretch (especially 10-15 years ago…). Dealing with temporary discomfort for a ‘perfect fit’ (whatever that means) when I was in my early 30s feels a lot different now that I’m 43 - and I have a much better sense of how I like jeans to fit now. In any case, I found this curious, and like I said, something I’ve been thinking about and considering since that trip. Is this an East vs West thing and our general idea around aesthetics? Or did the move towards ‘true’ size just seem to take hold in Japan earlier than the US? Or, I’m I just over thinking? This probably belongs in the general discussion, so please feel free to move, or I can delete…

Yep, also my experience. I got them in 33 vs. my ususal 34 (ore recently 36) and they fit very comfortably. The 51 on the other hand are quite slim in 33. 34 would have been better.

The 1937s do indeed run large. I was advised to go down one size than my typical FW size and am happy with the fit. I do know people who took their normal size in the 37s and have to wash more frequently to keep them from getting too sloppy.

I'll let you add the punchline.

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@edwardlj thanks for the correction and the info... changed my post ^ accordingly and booked in for another eye test

Tell us about the remaining 70%, if you don’t mind!

@Dr_Heech @Broark thanks to you both!

@tooth I went with my usual FW size, I believe the cut is somewhat similar to the '37s so I'm expecting them to be a little loose up top. Will post measurements once they arrive.

Yes l did go with my typical size. Hoosier very kindly hand measured (Inc. pics) sizes 32 and 33, as l'd heard the same info as you as wanted to be as sure as l could about nailing the correct size. Every since l fell in love with FW denim l've always been a 33. Owned and sold a pair of FW47'S because l didn't ask for advice beforehand (a sz 34) and gave my sz 32 FW47'S to my son after vanity sizing led to the pockets being too small to be properly functional. My old, now sold 51's were a 33 and always fit perfectly, albeit a little low in the front rise for my tastes it turned out.

@Broark @Dr_Heech did you both go with your typical FW size for the 1942 jeans? I wear a 32” in FW, but the charts I’ve seen have the 1942 running a bit large? Thanks in advance!

@coleslawyum long time no see! I really hope that in 5 years not much has changed at all 😆

@beautiful_FrEaK Well damn, every time I check in Sufu after a few years, your collection has morphed from Samurai to mostly Denime. I'll be interested to see your collection in another 5 years. I still have most of my collection, but sold about 30% of it.

Dolph Lundgren, Ice T and Van Damme, peak 90's

Say that again?

Would love to see some fit pics of the lovely 136 if anyone has any? Thank you in advance : ]Would love to see some fit pics of the lovely 136 if anyone has any? Thank you in advance : ]

yes, Bronson USN t shirts have the holes on both sides. The holes are used for hanging them on threads to try.