ID this typeface?

[thomas_highstreet]

Can anyone ID these two/three typefaces;

The 'scripting' inside the circular logo and the text reading 'london'.

And this main face here.. i realise the spacing is custom.

Thanks superhomos

[Akira]

http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/ is a pretty good tool for this kinda thing

The results I got for the second one (first one only works on the type below the circle):

Lucida Bright

Lucida Bright EF Roman

Leitura News-Roman 1

Lido STF

[Dolphin Jr.]

it might be Riccione

[thomas_highstreet]

Thanks for the replies!

Lido STF looks pretty similar but their is a slight kick on the C's/G's on the font lock&co font.

All the rest have the wrong drop on the J's..

To be honest the original circular logo is probably free hand no? - i was just hoping to find a similar font to base a free hand drawing from..

[po_boy_fuuma_hatesbargerz]

It's very difficult to tell from the small logo, however, the serif of the Ts in haTTers has slight variations between the 2 Ts.

This slight variation is also manifested in the width difference in negative space of the Os in London.

So...I'm going to have to say hand-drawn, but I'm certain better-informed typography experts can help more.

[thomas_highstreet]

yeah,.. its definitely hand-drawn, just their is likely a typeface used in movabletype printing that will be a fair doppelganger...

i think i will just draw it out myself, scan, scale and repaint it by hand.

i just wanted a set continuity between a few signboards i am making, and thought if i could find the right typeface i could work from that as a 'template'.

thanks though to all who've racked their brains!