denime and studio d'artisan sizing help

[jdavis]

should i buy my size in either denime or studio d'artisan? is anyone here familiar with their sizing?

all the sites i've seen talk about shrinkage of about 1 size, but nowhere does it say if the shrinkage is included on the tag like sugarcanes.

i'd appreciate the help and also any feedback from any of you that have broken in a pair. i've wanted a pair for a long time now. they really sound great.

[wild_whiskey]

For denime, it depends on which model you are getting.

For Studio D'artisan, the jeans shrink to their tagged size.

[jdavis]

thanks for the tip whiskey. thats exactly what i needed to know.

i'd still like some denime or sd feedback if anyone would like to share thoughts, pics, etc..

Edited by jdavis on Sep 14, 2005 at 05:30 PM

[Geowu]

I have pics of both (from Japanese sites), tell me the model and maybe I can post them.

[jdavis]

thanks geowu. the 101, 103 or 105. they seem to be the 3 main body shapes that SD uses.

[Geowu]

101

http://www.j-fabled.com/shopping_catalog/dartisan_sd-101/up.html

103

http://www.j-fabled.com/shopping_catalog/dartisan_sd-103_model/dartisan_sd-103_up.html

105

http://www.j-fabled.com/shopping_catalog/dartisan_sd-105/up.html

there are, of course, the SD site with the pictures. http://www.dartisan.co.jp

[losangeles]

Where you can buy SD or denime online to the US? Price range?

[ringring]

Quote:

should i buy my size in either denime or studio d'artisan? is anyone here familiar with their sizing?

all the sites i've seen talk about shrinkage of about 1 size, but nowhere does it say if the shrinkage is included on the tag like sugarcanes.

i'd appreciate the help and also any feedback from any of you that have broken in a pair. i've wanted a pair for a long time now. they really sound great.

--- Original message by jdavis on Sep 14, 2005 04:27 PM

Dry shrink to fit Studio D'Artisan's pretty much shrink to tag size and then may stretch back out an inch, depending on how you wear them. Not sure about their left-hand Lee repro.

Dry shrink to fit Denime's shrink about 10%. And in my experience buy the tag size a couple of inches bigger than your true size (like LVC).

Hope that helps.

Edited by ringring on Sep 15, 2005 at 08:41 AM

[jdavis]

thanks ringing - my issue now is that i want both an sd and a denime...

how many dips are the pure indigo studio's? the sd website quotes the natural indigo versions (sold out dammit) as 24s, but doesn't mention dips at all with the pure indigos.

[ringring]

Get 'em both

I've no idea how many dips the pure indigo's have undergone. If it's any help, they are plenty dark, and retain their darkness better than the natural's after the first wash.

[minya]

ringring -- do you have any idea how the Full Count 0105 fits? It looks slightly wide leg, and it appears to have a lower rise than most Japanese denim. I can't really tell though.

[ringring]

It has a lower back yoke than some repro styles (eg Denime XX), but I'd still place the rise and leg cut in the 'trad' catagory. Personally I wouldn't call them wide legged at all, but I guess it depends what you're comparing them to. Very nice jeans. Full Count's look great worn in.

[minya]

Yeah, I'm basing my guess of the leg on Bears' "tightness scale"; it ranks a 4 on there (same as the Denime XX). The 0105 looks like a pretty good choice for us larger-legged guys.

edit: ringring, could you compare the 0105 to the 5EP Low Down jean? That jean, when I tried it on, seemed to have a higher rise than, say, the Regular Ralf but seemed "modern" enough that I wouldn't call it a "traditional" jean.

Edited by minya on Sep 16, 2005 at 09:34 PM

[Geowu]

Full Count is top quality.

Quote: Where you can buy SD or denime online to the US? Price range?

Search on Google or here for the specific pair, then contact Celga (http://www.celga.com) and order. Price range varies according to the price of the jeans. If it costs ¥20000 for example the total price will be around $250.

[minya]

Quote: Full Count is top quality.

No doubt about that -- it's just so hard to find the right fit/size

http://tinyurl.com/8a2rn <-- that's the google-translated Rakuten Bears page... I'm guessing they're sold one-wash? and if I want a waist size of about 90cm I'm guessing I should order the 36, assuming they are pre-shrunk.

[Geowu]

minya, I understood the same. They'll probably stretch another inch.

[magicclean]

where did you see the tightness scale?

[Geowu]

Quote: where did you see the tightness scale?

you see.... the 1 2 3 4 5.

1 is tight. 5 is loose.

[shinobi2000]

Do these japanese companies/labels offer variable lengths on them? I bought a pair of Eternals once and they were not as long as I liked. Then I realized most of these sights dont offer too many length options.

[minya]

What Eternals did you get?

[Geowu]

Quote: Do you guys know how each of these fit? I can't tell by the pictures and there's no description.

In the D'artisan site there's a sizing guide. If you can't understand it, just ask for help here.

The 105 and the 103 are very similar, they are slim and low-rise. the 105 is narrower through the knee, a bootcut, while the 103 is straight.

The 101 is a classic fit.

[soleindahole]

how about the inseam on the d'artisans, whats that on there saying it will shrink 88cm? is that on the waist or lenght?

[horriblyjollyjinx]

hey guys, understanding how much a pair of jeans will shrink is very hard on these translated japanese sites, so I'd just go for a pair of sanforized jeans instead, then you can wear them raw too.

I have found a few pairs that are sanforized;

Studio D'Artisan: SD-201, SD-202, SD-203®

and if j-fabled is to be trusted:

F.O.B Factory: F-151

SUGER CANE: SC41966

jdavis: so, did you order any jeans, and if you did, are you happy with them?

tally-hoo

[jdavis]

Quote:

hey guys, understanding how much a pair of jeans will shrink is very hard on these translated japanese sites, so I'd just go for a pair of sanforized jeans instead, then you can wear them raw too.

I have found a few pairs that are sanforized;

Studio D'Artisan: SD-201, SD-202, SD-203®

and if j-fabled is to be trusted:

F.O.B Factory: F-151

SUGER CANE: SC41966

jdavis: so, did you order any jeans, and if you did, are you happy with them?

--- Original message by horriblyjollyjinx on Oct 8, 2005 07:25 AM

Hey horriblyjollyjinx no I haven't ordered any studio d'artisans yet - I've been sidetracked by work for the past little while - but I still plan on it. I think I'll chance it and buy non-sanforized - It'll be a nice change from what I've been wearing lately. I'll de-size with cold water and put them on damp to dry.

From what I've heard I'm sure we'll both be very happy with them. Let me know what you choose.

[wild_whiskey]

Quote: I read on another board that you own the Studio D'artisan 105's. How are those working out for ya?

Also, do you know if the 103s are just as tight as the APC new standards?

I liked the 105s but the fit didn't work out for me. A little too girly for me. I gave them to my friend who loves them more than life itself. I'm now working on a pair of 5EPs, which I love more than life itself.

the 103s are right about the same fit as APC new standards, if not a little bit slimmer (it's all very confusing, considering how inconsistent APC is with sizing).

Edited by wild_whiskey on Oct 8, 2005 at 06:50 PM

[takashi]

Incidentally, Studio D'Artisan does a 21oz jean similar to the Iron Heart selvage model. It came out earlier in the year (or late last) and appeared in the July 2005 edition of the Japanese denim magazine 'Denim Style Book', where it received a 'Designers Choice' designation from the editors. Here's a photo from a rakuten vendor:

http://www.rakuten.co.jp/klax-on/601804/603300/

In fact, SD may be using the same denim from the same mill as Works Inc --- it looks very similar in photos --- so it would come down to which cut you prefer. I think Denime might do one as well, but not sure.

takashi

Edited by takashi on Oct 10, 2005 at 06:35 AM

[soleindahole]

i just recieved my artisans 103 , i hope you guys are right about shrinking to the tag size. because they came in at exactly 32 waist!I think shouldve picked up a size 34! They are super stiff at the moment.

super slubby

[horriblyjollyjinx]

pics of you wearing them?

SOME GIRLS ARE BIGGER THAN OTHERS

[soleindahole]

i would, i might sell these. =|, too bad too cause theyre bad ass jeans.

super slubby

[Geowu]

post some pics anyway, please.