question on boot fit

[lifeup]

i have a pair of roll top timberlands (i know they dont match up to pbj 8310's) but they feel strange, a little loose.

forcing my toes towards the tip of the shoe, i could fit 2 fingers stacked between my heel and the back of the boot, so there's quite a lot of space. most sites say 1 finger, some 1.5, while boots for skiing say 2 fingers.

the problem is, is that i need to slightly grab the boots with my toes while walking, so they seem too big.

my question, how many fingers between heel and boot? and what can i do to make them less large-feeling? or is all of this part of breaking in?

[lifeup]

sorry if my question is boring but can anyone answer this please?

thanks

[onemancult]

sounds like they're too big. two fingers after pushing your foot all the way forward? way too much space.

[lifeup]

well i can barely fit in 2 fingers. same with all my other shoes (and some of my friends), but the heel in this one slips.

do u think the sole needs to flex out of its sturdiness because its a boot?