Juelz Santana

[sean_]

well, one be lo is one man army from binary star

i just thought it was intrresting comparing a member of a groups solo work against the work of th group, especially when binary star were so incredible and sonogram, while a good album, wasnt on par with masters of the universe

edit: i just got my first lou reed record a couple months ago, and its been out since 72 i think. am i a fucking herb cause i didnt get in in 72?

yeah, kind of. hah. no but seriously, my god how did you live without transformer (hopefully) for so long?

[KLAUS]

So who wears the Dipset Supreme shirt

[onemancult]

the toasting MCs were doing in Jamaica years before Herc brought the art form over here is far and away from what rap turned into in a matter of a few months in America,

in my estimation. i mean, i know and recognize that toasting is a direct precursor, but there's a big difference between repeating the same ten phrases over and over to direct a crowd of dancers and talking about real socio-political issues.

BDP was definitely the beginning of the Golden Era in my book. What record or group in '94 do you think was the last gasp? Better yet, what came after '94 that started rap music on its downhill course?

[cheapmuthafukr]

edit: i just got my first lou reed record a couple months ago, and its been out since 72 i think. am i a fucking herb cause i didnt get in in 72?

yeah, kind of. hah. no but seriously, my god how did you live without transformer (hopefully) for so long?

i listend to almost exclusivly hip hop and reggae for a long time. then i found transformer at a thrift store for 50cents... and love every second of it. oh... and there is visable selvage on the back cover of the album.

[cheapmuthafukr]

the toasting MCs were doing in Jamaica years before Herc brought the art form over here is far and away from what rap turned into in a matter of a few months in America,

in my estimation. i mean, i know and recognize that toasting is a direct precursor, but there's a big difference between repeating the same ten phrases over and over to direct a crowd of dancers and talking about real socio-political issues.

BDP was definitely the beginning of the Golden Era in my book. What record or group in '94 do you think was the last gasp? Better yet, what came after '94 that started rap music on its downhill course?

in regards to toasting, big youth was doing his thing before herc came over, ad was not just repeting the same thing over and over. yes it is different, but it is the begining of the style. the first mc in the us, coke la rock, was a jamacian who twisted the jamacian style just a bit to make it more palatable to NY ears.

i cant say what record was the last gasp, as it has been a gradual change, but the commercialization of rap music and hip hop culture in general seems to be what has helped the music on its downhill course. maybe the groups who pushed it forward got tired... i dont know... but after 94 even the best seemed to lose steam. compare wutang forever to 36 chambers, beats rhymes and life to midnight mauraders, etc....

[onemancult]

Big Youth!!

I definitely pay much respect to Youth, another luminary that is too often overlooked in today's musical climate.

Commercialization is definitely responsible for ruining rap music, I always try to think about what it was that started that trend. The hardest of the hard were out for diamonds and girls after a certain point; I can't help but partly blame MTV for blowing up the culture. As one of the final rebel youth movements, hip hop didn't get too far before marketing execs decided to capitalize on it. People today talk about "mainstream" rap vs. the underground, but they seem to forget that all the great records from the Golden Era were mainstream- they get way too focused on the idea that a backpack and indie label equals great music.

[cheapmuthafukr]

Big Youth!!

I definitely pay much respect to Youth, another luminary that is too often overlooked in today's musical climate.

Commercialization is definitely responsible for ruining rap music, I always try to think about what it was that started that trend. The hardest of the hard were out for diamonds and girls after a certain point; I can't help but partly blame MTV for blowing up the culture. As one of the final rebel youth movements, hip hop didn't get too far before marketing execs decided to capitalize on it. People today talk about "mainstream" rap vs. the underground, but they seem to forget that all the great records from the Golden Era were mainstream- they get way too focused on the idea that a backpack and indie label equals great music.

biggie... ready to die... that is the point where it started to slip.

nothing against big either... the album is classic from start to finish. i think its where they saw that you could sell a ton of "hip hop" records, so it kinda went like that until it just became pop and the true mcs were delegated to the dreaded "backpack" crowd.

[englandmj7]

Speaking of O.G.'s I was on the phone with DJ Red Alert himself a couple weeks back.....he wants to get into mobile.

[cheapmuthafukr]

Speaking of O.G.'s I was on the phone with DJ Red Alert himself a couple weeks back.....he wants to get into mobile.

wow... i cant believe you can name drop with a dick in your mouth.

j/k england... its cool. id like to hear it actually.

[englandmj7]

wow... i cant believe you can name drop with a dick in your mouth.

j/k england... its cool. id like to hear it actually.

It is easy enough to type with a dick in your mouth........then again, who knows how the hell you muffs do shit over in Florida......