Earnest Sewn Filson Patriot Raw Jeans, $99.99

[codeloss]

Thought some of you might appreciate this, unfortunately (for me) it's L32 only.

http://universalgear.com/product.asp?prodid=12142

[WhoGotMeIntoThis]

How raw can they be with a description like "slight wiskering". Wouldn't this suggest that they've been washed?

Like the cut and what not though. Good looking jean. Just can't imagine a "raw" jean with "slight wiskering"...

Just a thought.

[pacioli]

Maybe a better term would be "unwashed." The whiskering is a dry process done usually with hand sanding (via a sand paper like block) that requires no water.

I am looking to order these and have never had ES before. I'm usually a 31 - 32 waist. Being this is unwashed, any idea what size I should get?

[pacioli]

Some more thoughts. I searched the forum and if I may post this quote by jdavis:

posted: Sep 17, 2005 12:45 PM

"the filson xx is dry and unwashed, while the filson 50 is washed once and left to line-dry. it also has a very light resin prep. but both are preshrunk and have comparable indigo dips.

if you buy the filson 50, make sure its a second generation model - full belt-loop selvege. all the first generation filson 50s cost the same but only have the rear belt loop sewn with selvedge.

both great pants. hope that helps sole "

[Tarmac]

These don't look like Filson XXs which I have seen pics of before. If they are 50s I wonder which generation?

[Serge d Nimes]

well, it looks like they have selvage only on the back belt loop, so they must be first generation.

Carpe Denim! (not the jean brand silly!)

[pacioli]

Looks like waistband is selvedge as well. How can you tell the sideseams are not selvedge? Awesome trick

Is it because the ones with selvedge sideseams don't have beltloop selvedge? Or do you think the pictures would show such an important detail?

[andrewfuncrew]

i tried these on a while back at villains vault in SF

i also usually wear a 31-32 in the waist

i tried a 31 and it was way too tight (and i do enjoy a very snug fit commonly)

so if these are in fact unwashed i can't imagine them fitting well post wash if you were to get anything smaller than a 32

You've got nothing but hatred!

[pacioli]

Thanks for the advice. But if I factor in stretching, it may work? But your "way too tight" comment worries me. Think I'll hold off on ordering...I like to try my jeans before I buy. Still debating..

Good thing is they have a store in NYC since I prefer returns in person (not confirmed you can do that).

[Tarmac]

I ordered a pair from the link and these came in. They are in fact FULTONs (53s), not Filsons. Strange. Fultons are the OS'ed (overselvaged) current line, half selv on the outseam, selvage coin, selvage rear belt loop, fake whiteseam on the waist, hidden rivets and crotch rivet. Also these are longer than my Filson Maz 3Ds, I think 34 inseam

Edited by Tarmac on Feb 14, 2006 at 11:00 PM

[denimonio]

i found a pair of "filson" patriot raw at the barneys sale, 32x32. when i got home the inseam was 36".

decided i'd sell those and ordered these "fultons" in 32x32. i got them today and the inseam is 36".

normally i wouldn't mind hemming, i do it myself, but because of the "slight whiskering" behind the

knee i can't really. what gives?

oh and, i've got a filson AND a fulton for sale now.

[mojo_lo]

for people who own both the Filson and the Fulton, how would you compare the fit? Are they the same in the waist and leg?