Dr_Heech

@MJF9

Fyi, myself and Maynard (or Mayns, as he likes to be called) have shared a few beers in the non-virtual world of London some 10 years ago, l believe.  @Maynard Friedman help me out mate, memory is shoddy at best 

Honestly, we are mates on Facebook, lnstagram, denimbro and here... 

honestly 

8 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

I think you’re saying that historically, Levi’s (and not LVC) started using the red tab in 1936/37 and perhaps the Type I was released before then so wouldn’t have had a red tab? I’d need to check my books, which I don’t have to hand, so probably an expert like @Dr_Heech can confirm.

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To recap..

So the first pocket-flapped 506xx was introduced in c.1927, the details included small (501xx fly sized) unbranded buttons. From c.1928 until c.1935 the jacket used branded small buttons, but then in early 1936 Levis changed that and started to use the larger, waist-band sized buttons. Although the red tab was added around late 1936 on jeans pockets, it wasn't until mid 1937 that the tab was attached to jacket pockets. According to the book. 

As for Lvc, your guess is as good as mine. To date they have only made the 506 repro from c.1936, which shouldn't really have a tab yet, but obviously does. The only other 506xx repro was the wartime version, which isn't relevant here. 

Could be a sample version? These often dont have all the details that the shop-ready garments have (?)

2 minutes ago, Maynard Friedman said:

I think I posted it in the wrong thread, it’s my first WAYWT.

Lol. Need more coffee.

^Looks like Charlie wasn't the only one to get a new hat.

4 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

I do have a soft spot for gum soles. And since we have so many lads from the UK, what's your take on Gola?

Hey B_F just to say that l bought a pair of Gola  like yours back in 2002 in the brown and beige colourway. They looked a bit oldskool/retro (even though l never owned a pair back in school, l was more of an Adidas Kick man, l mean kid back then) and they looked good with old Levis. l wore them for going out, as opposed to cycling/general trashing and they lasted well. Lasted 8 years before they ended up being used for painting in (?)

48 minutes ago, Maynard Friedman said:

As worn by northerners, apparently…

Pre-distressing courtesy of Double O Soul ??

On 4/25/2023 at 5:41 AM, Flash said:

Other than hype , what is it that draws people to Roy ? I've never thought all that much of them to be honest but I've never had a pair in hand so maybe I'm missing something 

My tuppence worth. I bought a pair of his original run jeans. They were simple, very well constructed and reminded me of a pair of 70's redlines, although the cut was more drain-pipe than carrot shaped (?) I have used and abused them as much as l can and am very happy with them even now. Although l don't like the cheapish looking YKK hardware. They were a 100 quid and l'd give them an 8/10.

Also had the RoyxCones. Lovely denim but didn't get on with the cut (although when worn l got a lot of flattering comments ) and l hated the slash pockets. Beautifully constructed though with a definate artisan touch.

After that it all went hypesville due to his new 'limited releases' via Selfedge. Each release just seemed a bit similar and not particularly interesting to me, although he used some nice denims.  I had also heard from a good source that the guy was a bit of an egomaniac so even more reason to keep away. 

That slash pocket pair was the only time l swerved from the 5 pocket traditional jean so phew!

5 hours ago, shredwin_206 said:

.. But I also used to wear a lot of Lee jeans where they were spaced for sitting on a saddle. So the pockets almost felt like they were on the side of your legs. 

That's why they were called hip pockets.

Looks like a Penny's Foremost. 

5 hours ago, vlad_III said:

Does LVC use cotton or polyester for their stitches?

Polyester thread throughout. 

7 hours ago, bartlebyyphonics said:

I guess I hold a special place in my heart for the late 1800s lvc offerings, as they have made some nice ones; had both the late 90s triple pleat [which was inaccurate, but balanced] then the more recent one; both great jackets; this one feels a little sad for the company to go out with...

Tbh my friend, apart from the last Cone triple pleat (with no pocket flaps) all of the other triple pleats are inaccurate anyway - but l see what you mean, that distressing warrants a face palm emoji. 

Lvc's best time was (imho) 1999-2003, just before it changed from Levis vintage clothing to 'Lvc'. Saying that, their 1955 model has always been (more or less) consistent over the last 26 years or so, as is their 1947 model to an extent. So l guess for the last few fanboys (and fangirls) it's time to stock up on what's left. Maybe I'll have a look at the 55s when l'm up in London next although doubtful I'll end up with a pair. 

^But they're stitch for stitch reproductions, what do you mean?? 

I gave up on them around 2005, with only 3 new pieces bought since. Plenty of decent Japanese companies doing better if you dont mind the lack of arcs. 

Still got several wearers and 2 pairs of nos so no l won't be shedding a tear either.

28 minutes ago, Maynard Friedman said:

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Just for information, I have 2 denim jackets, a lighter, snugger Type I for warmer weather that I only wear a t-shirt underneath and a heavier, looser Type II that I can layer beneath. 

Ahh ... but can you wear the type l under the type ll, that is the question?

2 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

I expected a Levi's expert to judge this based on the details shown  

Not whilst sat on a mower in the  pissing rain! 

And l'm not a Levis expert, more of an enthusiast 

1 hour ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

Is that the same jacket I can see here?

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m99360169899

I'm not sure. If only there was a Denime expert here who could tell us 

@mk3radial difficult to find leg 38 or leg 40 in vintage Levis 501 nowadays, so congrats. A recent pick up or did you own them from new?

If they had a patch it would have read 2501 0117 (the 2 being the code for 40 leg length) - same stamped on the inside wash tag.

XX type from 1999.

Been looking through old Boon magazines, mostly mid-late 90's, and came across this Denime 213 from 1996 - 

[Edit] l also found a pic of the XX model jeans from 1999 but it's too dark to get a decent pic.

I really love that belt @beautiful_FrEaK - nice and simple with the type of buckle l've always preferred. Are those your new Denime's? Interesting  in that pic how far the front belt loops are apart (from each other) compared to, say Conners or Lvc. 

No, thank you @silencejoe 

1 hour ago, Double 0 Soul said:

... i've never ironed owt, life's too short for that nonsense!

Amen to that!

Thanks @unders that's of great help mate.

15 hours ago, MileHighEvertonian said:

Just wanted to jump in and point out that the lot numbers are each cut with notably different sleeve/shoulder patterns. I just got a 401 and discovered that it's cut & sewn to fall off the shoulder quite a bit. It makes for a more relaxed, less fitted look than my buzz rickson's, which has narrower, set-in sleeve pattern . The warehouse "freedom sleeve" models look to have more of a hybrid set-in + raglan thing going on that gives a more fitted looking shoulder. 

Thanks for the response anyway and yes that's my understanding of the 401 model and as you say, on one or two of the other models, the freedom-sleeve (and diff. cuffs) seem hybrid-like.

The 483 'plain rivers' (no V's) looks good and a bit (?) heavyweight but unsure if it's loopwheeled/reverse weave or not. They have a black and a green in this model and the measurements work out well with current wearers.

I haven't delved into anything with a double V as l'm a bit over it recently tbh. l have 3 cushmans (double V's) and 2 og buzz ricksons (single V).  Too many peeps saying that my jumper is on back to front, then when they see the front of it they give a 'wtf?' face   Would like a WH single V but no luck yet. Am going to London soon and will have a chat with the staff at Son of a stag and see how that turns out. They have some models (?) that at least l can try on, then I'll take it from there. Won't be buying at their prices tho.

 I think the 403 is similar to the 401 apart from the shoulder seams are more fitted and the 404 is the regular freedom sleeve model. Both are double V style so although nice, are going on the back burner for now. Hey l'm in no rush but further investigation may be required.

^l've done that before on my steel toe dunlop wellies - cheap as chips mate but does the job.

27 minutes ago, JohnM said:

^ I won't pay more than $900 for a pair of Roys ;-)

John I've got a used pair of OG's I'll let you have for 50 quid, if that's any help?

:-)