Dr_Heech

17 minutes ago, MJF9 said:

I heard Freewheelers are thinking of doing a line in incontinent trousers for the ageing population... calling them underalls, like overalls only different 

Not sure about that but the other day l saw some reel introducing 'pee stained jeans' so even if you're not incontinent, you can certainly have the look of some dude who's been caught short. 

3 minutes ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

^ sized down for that famous Sufu fit!

Maybe they're CSF ? Looks happy. Probably chuffed he got a pair to fit 😅

Thought l'd share - pinched it from Matt @Rivethead. S501XX probably.

On 1/19/2022 at 4:04 PM, Dr_Heech said:

 

Photos of 1942 501XX from Hellers Cafe.

Just a random comparison post as l don't have these photos to hand and it takes me ages to fire up the old laptop, and l can't be arsed to keep going back through these pages to find the images. 

1937 1st ever pocket flasher, used between 1937 and March 1942 vs 1942 2nd pocket flasher, used between April and December 1942.

@shredwin_206 looks like those back pocket rivets are nuzzling their way through the fabric. Nice job!

@Duke Mantee l don't suppose you would know if the 42 pair that FW copied were a used pair or deadstock? 

Never mind, found out they are a used pair 🙂

@Duke Mantee sorry moved post to FW thread

^^^^Also don't forget only one factory going into WW2 (1942) and at least 3 factories coming out so alot of new and untrained machine operators and a change in the new, more simplified design of the 501xx for skilled/trained levis employees to have to rush through for service industries. 

1 hour ago, MJF9 said:

Reopening the chat with @shredwin_206 @Duke Mantee in the FW thread on the 42 denim...

I'm hearing again that the denim is not new (it's the WW2 denim used on the recent models) however the features are new.  I know Shred heard the opposite...

x-wires somewhere... 

When l said new denim l meant for the 501xx at the time, so a change from the standard 1937 denim to the WW2 denim, even though the US weren't officially at war at the time. So another transitional model really.

Edit- decided to change the wording in my original post for clarity.

Loved my Csf S501XX when l got it back in 2016 but it didn't have any wild wonky stitching at all apart from the pleat stitching maybe but l still thought it was quite subtle. The Denim and cotton stitching gave it that aura of the Real deal though and l'm glad l still have the 41 and 44 WW2 jeans.

The FW1942's are actually based on  pre-WW2 501's and they were a kind of test sample materials- wise (eg new denim and copper coated iron) but still pre-war in terms of quality construction not under any necessary constraints or pressures.

Hopefully FW will convey this in their reproduction of them although l'm under little doubt as l've preordered both.

Thanks @Duke Mantee knew you'd have the intel .

15 hours ago, Broark said:

1942 506xx landing at stores now, featuring a nicely faded tab.

What's the shrinkage like on the war denim? The one wash measurements provided by Hoosier are great but l wondered what the final shrinkage is, in other words, beyond the one wash state. For those who have FW war denim - What's your experience?

Nicked these pics from lg - looks like a late 1941/early 1942 model 501XX. The model just before the forthcoming Freewheelers 1942 repro (last cinch model 501xx before the simplified S501xx)

Has the flipped yoke, left over right panels  and a black buckle. Beautiful pale yellow almost white stitching after years of wash and wear.

I'm not a fanny pack fan but can appreciate the work that's gone into that @Duke Mantee. Good job

@shredwin_206 visiting Down under?

@Maynard Friedman l remembered!

Pics blatantly stolen from the interweb -

Youth's 203 probably made in the mid to late 1920s. 

@rodeo bill That flight suit up! mook is probably worth almost half what you're asking for all of those. Still have mine and it's a great resource.

Also had that The Denim book in that last photo, not a bad purchase at the time although the pages seemed to easily fall out (?) Now sold it

There was a 'denim in movies' themed thread somewhere, actually there's probably more than one buried in the pages here.

I think Badlands along with Hud and The Misfits are the best Old top denim movies (maybe throw in the Outsiders as a sub)

Thanks mate 😀

@yung_flynn One of my fav denim films. Yes those are 1950s Levis 501xx and many of the police officers in the film  wear them too!

There's a great moment where he shows us how to put a type 2 on in the coolest of ways, if l had more tech know-how l'd post it here. 

1 hour ago, MJF9 said:

... a few quick observations... 

Immediately obvious is the Sugar Cane have no red tab.  Not sure why unless the original they copied from had the red tab missing... answers on a postcard please 

 

The original pair that Sugarcane copied are featured in the Vintage denim thread (wasn't aware when l originally posted the pics but have since amended the post) and they indeed have a red tab.

54 minutes ago, silencejoe said:

I am too fat 

Buy them, then focus on slimming down until they fit!

Plus then you can sell me one of your csf bucklebacks as they will be too big 😅

18 hours ago, Duke Mantee said:

Any interest in my Bootleggers Reunion denims - 33 waist - unworn, unwashed and c/w tags 

Rare as hens teeth … £275 plus shipping (but I’ll listen) means I’m taking a big hit but they don’t fit me now.

 

 

Surprised that @silencejoe hasn't snapped these up yet 😁

9 hours ago, kodachrome said:

Building on this Great War discussion, I'm wondering if anyone knows if the different war version from One Piece of Rock (talking here about the different factories in the Bay Area: SF, Santa Cruz, San Jose) are based on historical facts or just a fun way to distinguish between the range of product quality during WWII?

Well l don't know for sure if these are based on "historical facts" but l would certainly take any info from them with a huge pinch of salt after hearing that the 'one piece sleeve' model of their s406xxx (506xx repro) that was based on a model made in 1946 only, is in fact just a production quirk and many 506XX models made between 1946 and 1950 (and probably pre 1946) have this feature.

Tbh it's probably just their 'fun way' to distinguish between the range of product quality during WW2 for marketing purposes.