Dior Homme Experts...I need your help!

[skrachdis]

Dior Homme Experts, I need your help if I may. I recently scooped up a peaked lapel, short blazer in size 38 from 2006 on Ebay and wanted to see if anybody could tell me why it didn't quite meet the expectations I had in the fit, particularly in the armholes. They don't seem as skinny as I would have expected, judging from the runway pics and the being worn on Hedi Slimane. Is this jacket a reissue from season to season? Would the 2006 version be any less slim than prior seasons? Does the armhole width vary that much from size 38 to say, size 36?

Finally, would it be uncommon to take in the sleeve width on this jacket to make it skinnier? Any help is appreciated.

[BrettChaotix]

send the original auction link or photos of the shirt, maybe you bought a fake.

[skrachdis]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250247392881&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015

I doubt it's a fake. Dior insignia and size tag all seem legit.

[BrettChaotix]

yeah but it says that they had the armpits adjusted. Maybe the tailor fucked it up

[skrachdis]

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[chromesquared]

Y is SooperMarkit??

Small questions, you have lots of SMALL QUESTIONS>

[skrachdis]

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[dtolo]

In my experience it's only the tag size 44 and smaller jackets that have the super skinny arms and small armholes that most people associate with Dior. This is very true for the leather jackets and also most blazers (I'm not sure why they grade their sizing this way?) I have tried some jackets where the difference between a 44 and 46 is huge, especially in the arms... I think you could have the actual arm tailored to be smaller, but it will always be restricted by the size of the arm hole, which probably can't be altered much, if at all.

Hope this helps?

Cheers,

-dtolo

[skrachdis]

Thanks for the info mate.

[skrachdis]

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[zakkaz]

Could be fake? Thel silver label has thread coming out of it.

ps - it does not say they had the arm pit adjusted, it say's 'damaged' no where is there mention of any adjustments/tailoring occuring.

My guess is they tried to adjust it themselves and made a mess of it? Maybe the arm was skinny but too skinny for them and they wanted to expand it, which is why it feels so huge on you.

Hope this helps

[skrachdis]

The thread indeed is coming loose off of one corner, but so is half my other Dior collection. Those tags don't really stay on too well.

[evisu 2000]

it's fake... just look at the garment tag.

but even on real items, sleeve slimness varies from season to season and piece to piece.

[skrachdis]

The garment tag seems pretty real to me. What are the indicators? I've seen a fake tag and this does not look it.

Anybody else?

[evisu 2000]

look at the ref tag, it's not even centered. and anyways reference should be in bold and the ref# shouldn't.

[_ironman]

look at the ref tag, it's not even centered. and anyways reference should be in bold and the ref# shouldn't.

i have one from VOTC where "reference" is in capitals and not bolded, and the reference number is bolded. also on mine, DIOR HOMME is underneath the reference number

which way is the letter "p" on the paris tag facing when it is hanging downward? the "p" should be facing the nape of the neck, not facing away from it

i think it'd be best if someone had one from the same collection to compare as it may differ collection to collection

i like to help, but seriously, bumping it three times is pretty annoying of you. there are other threads you should've used instead of creating one, especially in the supermarket.

1) small questions thread, for your small question

2) legit checks megathread, self explanatory

3) a dior thread if there is one, if not, try the dior denim faq for help from fellow dior fans

[zakkaz]

It's a classic item from dh (just a plain black blazer) so easy for someone to get copied from thailand, singapore, then steal tags/label and stitch on. Maybe it is best to email dior HQ withe pictures and let them assess, or pop along to your local boutique

thanks

[skrachdis]

My bad on the locale of the thread and also the bumps. Let's make an exception this time around. The reason why the market sounded like a place for it is because I'm considering selling it if I can't sort the confusion out. I'd be pretty pissed if it was fake, but I guess it is seriously possible.

I'm still sort of convinced that it is real, given the general quality of it and the tag. I sort of agree with yoh05 i.e. a size 48 really isn't going to be runway slim (in the arms). Furthermore, the auction itself says VoTC, but it isn't really from that season., so any comparisons to those season's labels would probably be skewed. Thanks for all the help so far.

Does anyone have a similar jacket from 2006?

[GreedyBastard]

the seller iswell known in the Dior Homme UK MSN market and sells some nice items... all seemed to be real

[theaddict]

hmmm, i just checked ALL of my reference/washing tags and the word REFERENCE is written in capital letters on all pieces.

Just to add, otherwise it looks good to me.

Can someone confirm if there are pieces which have the word Reference not in capital letters?

[zakkaz]

everyone's getting paranoid now lol:D

[_ironman]

My bad on the locale of the thread and also the bumps. Let's make an exception this time around. The reason why the market sounded like a place for it is because I'm considering selling it if I can't sort the confusion out. I'd be pretty pissed if it was fake, but I guess it is seriously possible.

I'm still sort of convinced that it is real, given the general quality of it and the tag...Thanks for all the help so far.

i don't mind helping, but we should not make an exception. the mods should move this thread or delete it and make you do it properly. and who is going to buy something that you yourself doubt its authenticity?

quality can be faked. i've seen some that are really good fakes, with striped sleeve lining, non fuzzy wash tags, even the "p" on "paris" facing the right way

Can someone confirm if there are pieces which have the word Reference not in capital letters?

i have/had a pair of dress pants from SS02 Red that wasn't in capitals and it also had accents on the first two "e"s (é)

everyone's getting paranoid now lol:D

yeah, well you would be too for >$800. that's why you see he's just wanting to come to the conclusion it's real without really checking. he hasn't responded about the paris tag, and one more thing: is the stitching on the buttons of yours | | or X. it should be the former

1) go to aforementioned threads and ask if someone has an FW06 item to compare the wash tag (small questions, legit checks megathread, dior thread, even msn groups dior forum)

2) like you (zakkaz) said, go to local boutique to check

[dtolo]

Sorry to chime in again...

I have jackets from fw06 and the word "Reference" is not in all caps and neither the word nor the numbers are in bold, so I would be pretty certain yours is real. I also own this same jacket in a size 44 (from 07) and the arms are very tight, but the same jacket in 46 was much looser. This has been reisused every season for the past few years, and I've seen it in both a heavier and lighter-weight wool (I'm assuming yours is the latter). The FW06 version you have should not be any different from the other seasons in terms of size.

As for the arms, I think you'll have to accept that for the bigger sizes (and yes, in Dior world a 48 is considered big) the arms are cut much looser than the smaller sizes - probably to allow a larger range of people to fit into the stuff.

The jackets seen on the models as well as those worn by Hedi are custom-made pieces made only for that person or showroom samples. An off-the-rack jacket will never have arms this thin - the closest you can get, as far as I've found, is to buy a size 44 or smaller jacket, or try and have yours tailored to get closer to the "runway look".

Cheers,

-dtolo

[skrachdis]

Helpful bit of information indeed. Much thanks. If the dialogue continues, awesome, but if I need to branch this into another thread, then ironman's advice is definitely noted. Peace in the middle east my friend.

[Fabulaz]

Peace in the middle east my friend.

Yuck.

Anyways, in this picture:

The 4 stitches holding the tag in place, aren't they usually diagonal instead of horizontal in the picture? I don't know too much about all the fancy details of Dior but aren't they usually like that?

[evisu 2000]

nah that varies from season to season.

[skrachdis]

I just checked the stitching on the buttons and it is indeed II as opposed to X.

[skrachdis]

I also checked the Paris tag with other authentic jackets off of Ebay and it seems to be facing the same way.

At this point, I'm thinking it's real for I haven't heard enough evidence to say it is fake.

I also tend to agree with dtolo that an off-the-rack jacket isn't going to have that runway thin look on the sleeves, especially in a size 48, so off to the tailor I go.

Thanks for all the help so far.