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Figured it might be a cool to start a thread to talk about what we consider tried and tested, true grail (trying not to use that word specifically) status denim. Could be best texture, best details, best fades, you name it. Samurai and APC threads' at one point went to shit because of the constant "if I'm w31, should I get a size 23 (sized down 12 sizes)" chatter and it got real old, real quick. In saying that, I don't think companies should be handicapped because of past user transgressions. For me, and my limited experience—only in alphabetical order, not popularity: APC denim Flat Head 3XXX Iron Heart 21oz Samurai 19oz (indigo and black) Sugar Cane EDO-AI

TBH, apart from Common Projects and a couple of other threads, I have never left the Superdenim forum. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Between him and Rockets, I kinda wanna give them both a try.

How many you need @superfuture? I'm down if you need any more mods...

^ Jealous! 3XXX denim has to be one of the grail denims for sure.

^ Good deal right there!

I'm on default theme, not the SF one. It did this on SF 0.7 too, never bothered to see what the bug was but yeah, if you can look on my account, Self Edge thread, and I think The Flat head, and Imperial I changed to more posts per page and they have always acted funky since then.

I have been having some weird things happen when I click a thread, where I have "take me to latest comment." A while ago, I could choose how many posts I could view PER page in the setting page. I changed a few threads, and when I click those threads, it always takes me to the second to last page. Cannot for the life of me figure out how to go back to default. When I get +rep in those pages, it never takes me to the post but takes me to the page before.

TBH @beautiful_FrEaK, the hooks are the only thing I have ever used, lets them air, and you can fit so many in such a small space. Were you folding before?

Since you're a supermod now, maybe start up a new thread, and then he wont be an unknown brand(😘). His stuff looks awesome. Great thing about denimheads is we ain't partial to one brand, unless you are @beautiful_FrEaK, and it's Denime. 😘

I believe originally the XX meant "extra, extra strong" but now, I always thought it meant the weave of the denim (and the stitching thread count) is as close to the originals as they can get it.

Get any of the 3XXX denim, and you will not be disappointed! I looked on Franklin & Poe's site recently, but unfortunately, none of the cuts work for me anymore. I'd say that they really need to update their cuts if they wanted to become more relevant again. And by update, add an inch or two on the rises and thighs. Done. I'd say 1.5" of shrink in waist, 3" in length, and you'll get an 1" of stretch after wear. My SE05BSP (3XXX denim) after probably 3 years of wear.

Technically the December 31st, so plenty of time, just being impatient right now.

How long we got until 26s and a new site K? Need to lock in that 2024 Indigo Invitational pair...

Current (selvage) rotation: A.P.C. New Standard Iron Heart 633s-142 Naked & Famous Weird Guy Natural Organic Cotton Nudie Steady Eddie II Dry Indigo Selvage Nudie Steady Eddie II Dry Black Selvage Nudie Tuff Tony Utility Denim Roy RT Slim Tapered XX Experimental Denim Samurai S710XX19oz-II Studio D'Artisan SD-508 Sugar Cane Anniversary Edition Edo-Ai Limited Edition

Felt like MJF9 hit the nail on the head with all his points, but the above hit home for me. I would also add, "Denim history - what have you typically gone for, and what feels wide for you now?" I typically have gone for slim fits but I recently bought a pair of the 10oz Nudie Utility pants and I love them. Hem measures 9.75 inches which is probably an inch and a half bigger than anything else in my wardrobe. So comfortable. Looking to buy some wider cuts now. SC, FC, and Imperial's new 1947 collab are on my radar for next purchase.

Never heard of SP, but checked the site, jeans look nice! Would love an actual measurements table inline, and not an image that is cut off though, us 36/38 folk getting shafted.

We all know you have a pair of jorts under there BF.

Kiya said 3–4 weeks.

What's the general consensus for Resolute 714s as far as shrinkage is concerned? BEARS' are one-washed but I can expect considerable shrinkage after washing and drying a couple of times?

Thanks @Cold Summer, it probably has to do with me always telling myself I need to put two years of wear on each pair to justify the $$$$. Regarding contests, I get that @chicote, it is way more interesting to have the same denim, see how they fade with different fits (sizing up, down, or TTS), and how people utilize them to get their fades. I mean, if you distill it down, isn't buying raw denim really about the fading? I believe most people, especially those that have been in the game for at least a few pairs, know that buying the slimmer cuts will get you the best fades. The tightness will permanently crease more, and the "constant pressure" will aid in indigo loss. Compared to a loose cut, "vintage" fades just take longer. You buy a jean for the denim and the details. You stick with them to have a "cool" faded pair down the road. In today's age, people lose interest in a competition that's more than a year long so they choose the faster-fading types of denim, the slimmer cuts, and comps that run a year max. But how can you compete with SE Asia when they wear their 25oz tight af jeans year-round in 115s and 100% humidity? Full disclosure, I have entered the Indigo Invitational for 2024. Looking forward to it, so trying to wear all my other denim as much as possible for the next five months.

Not a 66 type jeans but my new SDA 508 are 12 oz, and I agree, so comfortable. Almost doesn't feel like denim when you are used to 14.5 and above. They look great now @beautiful_FrEaK, I am assuming you are aiming for minimal shrinkage once you soak?

My own personal anecdote is that the first three months of ownership are always the best, said jeans being new and all. The way it finally settles after that initial crispness. Then, three to nine months is usually the least interesting, occasionally uplifted by some electric blue peaking through in direct sunlight, but generally a stale wear period. They don't look new, they don't look worn. A middle ground. After that—nine to twelve months—there's a renewed love since the thighs suddenly start showing a distinct color difference from the lower legs, or the wallet fade is beginning to make way to a hole forming. This usually re-energizes me to wear the pair again more often and then it seems to accelerate to a point where they need repairs, but look their best in between fixes. Until finally, the cost ratio of how many repairs have been made and may need to be done in the future encourages me to find a new pair. This, for me, usually happens between 2.5–3.5 years (maybe even 2-3). I try to keep about 4-5 pairs in constant rotation and not get on the hype train of buying every brand/model and having it sitting in my closet where my tastes (or weight) could change drastically in a few years. A funny thing with denim though, it's the one area in life I don't have a specific brand allegiance. I love trying different brands and often seek new brands. I kinda dig that.

We got a new date for the SExI26? Me birthday has been and gone...

Where did you get the Rocket Saddles from @DC2020? They look great!