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Thanks! I really like the fit - almost all measurements turned out to be almost exactly what I would have listed as my ideal post-shrink. The 232 is definitely not for the large chested since this is the biggest size and I'm only a 38-40" chest. Length is a bit short on me, but that's because I'm pretty tall (which also often makes pants rise seem low on me too) - jacket still covers the yoke though. Length is very comparable to older WH 2002xx (not sure about the new 1960 version) in same size and pretty close to other high fidelity Type 2 repros that I looked at. I'm not sure if the denim is the same as the 220a or as the upcoming 50s pair. Regardless it seems like it will be a very fast fader like the 220a - hard and rigid creases set in almost instantly

In case this is helpful to anyone else who needs long sleeves, I asked Ryo about the No. 2 blouse sleeve sizing because the size charts made the sleeves seem significantly shorter than other TCB models. He replied that the sleeves indeed measure 3 cm shorter than his 20s jacket in the same size, but that the sleeve essentially hits at the same place because of the shoulder and armhole construction. As for the jeans, I've actually come around to them and expect to grab a pair (probably with belt loops for function's sake) before orders close this week unless I have a last minute change of heart. I have no illusions of winning the competition and they probably won't truly be worn everyday because they are so niche, so the 18 month cycle helps. Hard to turn down curiosity for the details of this pair and I get the feeling that they will fit me pretty well. (Seeing the updated fit from TCB Instagram in a true-to-size pair helped too). More on the fence with regards to the jacket since I just got a Type 2 and don't necessarily need it, but it might help tie the jeans more into my existing wardrobe

Denime/Brooks Brothers/TCB/Alden

Here are some close-ups of my TCB 50's that I've worn since last August in rotation with my WH 1001xx. They are relatively slow fading, but some electric blue highlights are showing through in the slubbier and higher wear areas especially in the sunlight. Like the WH pair, the color of these is beautiful in natural light. The color of the front pocket stitching and back pocket corner feel truest to real life - my son was starting to fuss during these so I had to compromise on finding proper exposure and white balance on a few.

I've been playing around with my macro lens to shoot close-ups of my son, so I thought that it would be fun to take some macro shots of my DD-1001xx 1947 out of the wash. I got these minimally worn secondhand last September. The color is really beautiful in the sunlight, although the crotch has seen better days after a couple quick repairs. Originally, I was a bit lukewarm on the pre-distressed leather patch and buttons, but they look pretty nice and fit in much better now with significant wear. Back pocket, front pocket, and belt loop shots feel closest to color in true life. \

Here is the 232 post wash and dry. Fabric is still very stiff and relatively smooth with a small amount of coarseness by hand. Color has a grey cast. Size is 42. Pit-to-pit: 21.8" (5% shrinkage) Shoulders: 19" (12% shrinkage) Sleeve (shoulder seam to cuff): 25.25" (7% shrinkage) Length (back collar to hem): 24.2" (8% shrinkage) Sleeve length here makes me question whether I could make the TCB No.2 jacket work with 1.5-2" shorter half shoulder + sleeve length

My Denime 232 Type II arrived from Celluloid today. Here are the pre-wash measurements: Size: 42 Pit-to-pit: 23" Shoulder: 21.5" Sleeve (shoulder seam to cuff): 27" Body Length: 26.25" Some quick photos in the pre-wash state, including fit are below. I will update with post-wash measurements and more detail shots when I get a chance (along with some macro shots of my other jeans hopefully). Same thing happened to mine after a machine wash and dry - very warped and jerkied (actually not quite as bad as it looked at first glance)..

The butt is the clear tell for me on these. The Cats Drive model photos look similar from behind as this pair but those fit super differently on me TTS - far less saggy from behind. i will admit that the no 2 jeans have grown on me with time. I actually think that they would probably fit me very well if I found the right size. Still on the fence though because the single back pocket would make them a bit hard to wear to the office and I’d have to think on whether I could make the suspender buttons + additional belt loops work with my overall style

I’m really curious how they would look on others outside of TCB staff as well. From my other pairs, I’ve noticed that they fit very different on me than on the stock photos especially in the rear. I suspect that part of the reason is body type and part is that I believe that the TCB staff often likes to size up a couple to a few sizes.

No guarantees that the complete pattern will be very similar but this is the Cats Drive (size 31 on 6’3” 170 lb body) on me, which the size chart suggests should be rather similar in dimensions as the No 2 in case this is helpful at all for gauging potential fit

In honor of the TCB No. 2 release - LL Bean Sherpa flannel overshirt, Kirkland t shirt/ TCB Cats Drive jeans/Rancourt Ranger Mocs. These jeans have grown on me with wear. I actually quite like them now. The before and after versus my first try-on photo is pretty amazing

The jeans are slimmer than I was expecting. The size chart for my likely size is almost identical to the Cat's Drive except for a 0.5" lower rise for the No. 2 and a 0.25" wider leg opening, which is more of a slim straight in my mind. I really like the idea and the effort that went into these. I'm leaning towards passing because I worry about how they will fit and the single back pocket and suspender hardware would make them a bit harder to wear to work or my day-to-day. Pure curiosity for trying the denim itself though could sway me to still snag a pair for the novelty and occasional use.

Something a bit different today. The bright sun blew out the highlights some unfortunately. Vintage Patagonia hemp workshirt/Jungmaven hemp t shirt/ Buzz 1942 chinos/Rancourt boots.

These are looking great! I may add my own pics once I wash my own in the next few days, probably once my Denime 232 jacket arrives. The roping, seam puckering, and pocket areas are all great on these. The crotch stitching is no joke though. I've also had to repair the stitching a few times from crotch to just under the bottom of back pockets - crotch almost completely separated while I was in the AMS airport a couple of months ago. I love my pair as well, but they may need to be relegated to lighter wear soon or else they will fall apart before they finish fading

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That makes sense. I just looked at Bear's measurements for Resolute 710 and they are very similar for a given waist. Resolute 710 is actually even 2 cm higher rise, 0.5 cm wider in thigh, and 1 cm wider in leg opening. I'm concerned that even the Resolute would be too tight for my frame, so the Kyotos are a no-go for me. I did end up snagging a Denime 232 jacket from Celluloid to solve my Type 2 fix. It was a hard choice over WH 2002xx, but I figured that it was a good chance to try out Denime. In reality, it probably won't be hugely different from the 2002xx based on the Denime by Warehouse jeans - will probably grab a pair of 220a when back in stock or new 1954 when it arrives.

Are the Kyotos pretty low rise and narrow through the thighs? These actually should fit my waist and inseam, but I fear that the rise and thigh would be too tight for me.

Great this all sounds good. I don't necessarily want a slim jacket just one where the sleeves will fit my arms without a truly massive chest from sizing up 2-3 sizes. Sugarcane 1953 in size 40 should work for me, just need to doublecheck body length. Drop shoulders of Type 2 actually work great since narrow shoulders are what limit a lot of Japanese made tops for me

Yeah, Badlands is one of the few films that I distinctly remember the denim. Cruising of all things is another (also great leather jacket and engineer boot inspo). Although, I still have yet to see Rebel Without a Cause despite loving other Nicholas Ray films.

What brands sell denim jackets that are agreeable for taller and slimmer frames? I have a good grasp on shirt and blazer sizing, but for some reason I can't quite wrap my head around correlating denim jacket size charts to real life fit. For reference, I'm usually a 34 - 35 inch sleeve in shirts depending on how wide the armhole and shoulders are and a 39" chest for typically a 40 L blazer (21-22" p2p). I'm looking around at Type 2 repros for spring - fall. Sugarcane 1953, the new Denime 2002xx (or WH 2002xx if it's restocked), and TCB 50's jacket all seem like they would work in theory - enough sleeve length without a massive chest

Martin Sheen in a Type 2 in Badlands. Jeans seem more like 60's Levi's though.

Yeah I think that this is a great way to put things. Any time that I've ever worn a blazer with jeans it is to dress down the blazer and not dress up the jeans, so things like the leg twist and paper patch fulfill that goal well. If I want to dress up a blazer, I'd be better off in chinos or wool flannels in my mind. The comments on the article that bF linked are interesting though. Several people complaining about the "cheap" paper patch and "poor" QC of the leg twist and misaligned back yoke seams on a $300 pair of jeans (another huge US markup vs. Japanese domestic at $150). A pair of CSF would probably send them into palpitations.

I'm still curious why leg twist bothers some people so much. It's not uncomfortable and nobody has ever noticed unless they are deep in the game and looking closely at photos

Sorry my bad - I missed the line with the actual measurements. I revised the original post to include them

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