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@Sympathy-For-The-Denim I think, it was in 40s, that they switched from RHT to LHT. The Lee REAL VINTAGE COWBOY 101-B 1939 model is still RHT. The COWBOY 101 1945 one is LHT.

Some inspiration for Christmas presents: levis 501 xx 1937 (looking at the reverse yoke could this be 1941?) levis 507xx 50s 40s vintage chino pants This one is sold unfortunately.

Great stuff. Is the 601RB available anywhere?

I think, it was in 19 and 20 that I had taken mostly a hiatus from following the board. So, some discussions are new to me. Plus with the "site:" search in ggl it's quite quick to find.

Glad to have provided that.

I've never washed jeans warmer than 40C and have never used a drier. So I was a bit worried about what might happen to the denim. I first washed them in 60C. They shrunk a bit, but not enough. I then put them in the drier, highest temperature for about 15 minutes. Now they shrunk more, just right. From about 47.5 to about 45cm. The patch dried up a bit from both, but not much. The denim is basically the same as before.

The 1942 also has only three, even in 36. Would that be analogue to the jacket with four instead of a five? But the 44s and 45 models have five, no? Perhaps only for that model.

A cool pair. Of the elusive period 40-42 (or 41-42?) with that reversed yoke. A little slimmer than the 37 it seems. What denim is your CSF 41 made of?

At that time many RRL boots, also the engineers, were made by Julian. Yes, very nice.

Quite a bit. Good to hear that. Thanks Especially in the waist. And since that is too wide for me now, I don't think, that it will stretch back once it's shrunk.

Shrinking- After my DSB 1942 in 33 were too tight in 33, I got them in 36. After a hot soak and now two cold washes they fit quite well everywhere except for the waist, where they are too wide with still 94cm or so instead of my normal ca. 90cm. Would you rather wash at 40, 50 or 60C to shrink them more? I normally never use the drier but might do so in this case. Any experiences/suggestions?

I also had bought a pair of shoes from them, that had some issues and they were very helpful in exchanging that pair. That should be standard practice, but unfortunately isn't these days as I had to learn a few times in the past two years.

I've been discussing this a little with @beautiful_FrEaK, a simple overview of the jeans mostly focussed upon here, i.e. from 36 to 55. We noticed that the 47 has of course been widely discussed, as have in the recent years the different WWII and 46 models. On the different 50s models there hasn't been that much discussion, I found. These are, I think, the main characteristics regarding denim and cut. 36/37: probably the widest fit (thigh, knee, hem) dark denim denim relatively smooth stitch colour: mostly tobacco/orange (LVC has some lemon/yellow in it) 42: two versions, one with cinch, one without, already coarser WWII denim stitch colour: yellow WWII: different versions, but generally higher rise, wider in the thigh and knee, a little tapered, dark denim relativel coarse (neepy and slubby to various degrees) denim stitch colour: yellow 46/47: Rise a little lower than the WWIIs Upper thight a little less than WWIIs, knee similar to WWIIs, hem wider than WWIIs, thus straighter, hardly any taper less dark denim, more blue relatively smoother denim stitch colour: orange and yellow 47 tab one sided (katamen) 50s- there seem to be three main model: 1951, 1953 and 1954 (and on) 1951- little lower rise compared with the 47, similar thigh, less knee and hem denim again a bit brighter similar denim to 47 stitching is mostly brown with some yellow tab both sided (ryomen) 1953- the year the type 2 jacket was introduced while the 51 became slimmer in the knee and hem than the 47, the 53s got wider than the 47s again in the knee and hem denim seems similar to 47 and 51 stitching is mostly brown with some yellow (rainbow stitching) with the arcs from the WH version in yellow shorter side stiches no more selvedge in the coin pocket narrower v-stitch tab both sided (ryomen) 1954- very similar to the 1953 according to the WH models the hem is a little wider switch to more mass production had the back middle belt loop move a bit to the left, offset --> easer to sew as the material/fabric is not as thick the WH model still has the leather patch, later switch to paper patch yarn colours like 53 model 1956- The FW model is even slimmer than the 1951 one, knee and hem Now while the FWs, TCB and WH 50s models I checked all had mainly brown stitching with some yellow (waist, arcs, ...) the 50s models of Cushman (lot 22177) and also Joe McCoy (905S) have mostly yellow stitching. Cushman Joe McCoy So where there models in the 50s with mostly brown stitching and others with mostly yellow? Or is this based on specific year models? Perhaps something is stated in the 501 book. Here are some helpful measurements and overview graphics from the Duke.

Ashoes&Son from Saitama Founded in 1995, apparently for 20 years mostly a fashion shop, then after acquiring the necessary skills and machines offering repairs and making denim items. I saw a few items in this shop like a type 1, WWII type 1, WWII jeans and these '47 type ones. Their web address is stated as ahoes.co.jp , but I couldn't get it io work. But here is their rakuten shop. And they also offer all kinds of repairs and hemming services.

That looks great. Since May- did you wear them nearly every day?

Great fit on the FW 51s. And the Trickers are lovely.

Ah, the latter half 1942s with the crotch rivet and the denim pocket bags.

Is that also the recent Uplander (over)shirt?

I got the 51s in 33 1.5 years ago when I was still looking for slimmer fits. They fit me fine everywhere except for the hips (waist stretched enough to be fine). So kind of "stress whiskers". The 34 would probably fit me very well everywhere. But since I'm now into more comfortable wider fits I got them in 36. And they fit very well with a belt. No matter, how much research there will always be an element of trial and error.

An amazing "comeback". Thanks

I didn't know, what a gusset is in German, so I looked it up: it's called "Zwickel". Had never heard that word before. There is also a kind of beer called "Zwickl", which is a test siphoning off, a sample of the young beer, before filtration, which is a beer in its own right now. In this case Zwickl refers to the tap through which the beer is siphoned off. Not sure, if these two words are related.

Did you also have a pair of the WH DD 47s? And if so, how would you compare them denim and fit wise? Also interested to hear about the difference in fit between the Denime 47s and 54s.

Talking about the Black Klondike leather. I just saw this pic of the 9870, which is the Irish Setter Round Toe in Klondike. The owner had the crepe wedge sole changed to a Beckman style. They have about ten years of wear. In the Beckmans of ten years or so ago there was also a black version, the 9014 in that Featherstone leather.

Interesting. So for the 14.5oz it's basically all the same denim. And that would be Texas cotton, right? Like stated here For the newer wider models (FN D 110, 111, 112) it says Zimbabwean cotton here and also here. And Selfedge states that the model D111 is left hand twill. All the D11.versions have the suffix XXX on the patch.