indigoeagle

Nice trip. Lovely pictures. So, that cool bottle keeps your coffee hot. But how do you make your coffee now?

What is the going rate?

My 36 pair of the 80XX after a soak and 30C wash measured: waist: 46cm FR: 32.5cm BR: 43.5cm Thigh: 35cm Hem: 23.5cm

Which ones is that besides Qurious and Morley?

Like bf said, these are two different models: one with the OD HBT pocket bags, the other with the flannel. It's also a different denim. The late S40s jeans also have a red tab, at least the ones sold in Japan.

Possible. But they are selling the black late 40s pants and jackets. And I think, TCB had issued those after the indigo ones. But who knows.

This shop has quite a wide selection of TCB items. They're sold out there now, but might get them again. https://www.qurious-web.com/product/6041

FW Deck Worker Parka • FW Lot 506XX 1933 • TFH • WH 1942 • RW 9011

How do you guys fit the 601RB? Consensus seems to be the same size as 51. My standard size in FW jeans in 34. 36 would probably be too big in the 601 RB, no?

Just saw this on the TCB early 37 C page. Apparently they are calling it (41 model with reverse yoke) late 37, produced in 40s. There also seems to be a mid 37 model.

Yes, I think, in Japan Lee Archives has mostly released 40s and 50s models in the recent time. https://ameblo.jp/barnstormer-go/entry-12867304328.html Aero still has this one in W30: https://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/denim/lee-japan-101b-jeans-cinch-back-1934--dry/dnm025

@Sympathy-For-The-Denim I think, it was in 40s, that they switched from RHT to LHT. The Lee REAL VINTAGE COWBOY 101-B 1939 model is still RHT. The COWBOY 101 1945 one is LHT.

Some inspiration for Christmas presents: levis 501 xx 1937 (looking at the reverse yoke could this be 1941?) levis 507xx 50s 40s vintage chino pants This one is sold unfortunately.

Great stuff. Is the 601RB available anywhere?

I think, it was in 19 and 20 that I had taken mostly a hiatus from following the board. So, some discussions are new to me. Plus with the "site:" search in ggl it's quite quick to find.

Glad to have provided that.

I've never washed jeans warmer than 40C and have never used a drier. So I was a bit worried about what might happen to the denim. I first washed them in 60C. They shrunk a bit, but not enough. I then put them in the drier, highest temperature for about 15 minutes. Now they shrunk more, just right. From about 47.5 to about 45cm. The patch dried up a bit from both, but not much. The denim is basically the same as before.

The 1942 also has only three, even in 36. Would that be analogue to the jacket with four instead of a five? But the 44s and 45 models have five, no? Perhaps only for that model.

A cool pair. Of the elusive period 40-42 (or 41-42?) with that reversed yoke. A little slimmer than the 37 it seems. What denim is your CSF 41 made of?

At that time many RRL boots, also the engineers, were made by Julian. Yes, very nice.

Quite a bit. Good to hear that. Thanks Especially in the waist. And since that is too wide for me now, I don't think, that it will stretch back once it's shrunk.

Shrinking- After my DSB 1942 in 33 were too tight in 33, I got them in 36. After a hot soak and now two cold washes they fit quite well everywhere except for the waist, where they are too wide with still 94cm or so instead of my normal ca. 90cm. Would you rather wash at 40, 50 or 60C to shrink them more? I normally never use the drier but might do so in this case. Any experiences/suggestions?

I also had bought a pair of shoes from them, that had some issues and they were very helpful in exchanging that pair. That should be standard practice, but unfortunately isn't these days as I had to learn a few times in the past two years.

I've been discussing this a little with @beautiful_FrEaK, a simple overview of the jeans mostly focussed upon here, i.e. from 36 to 55. We noticed that the 47 has of course been widely discussed, as have in the recent years the different WWII and 46 models. On the different 50s models there hasn't been that much discussion, I found. These are, I think, the main characteristics regarding denim and cut. 36/37: probably the widest fit (thigh, knee, hem) dark denim denim relatively smooth stitch colour: mostly tobacco/orange (LVC has some lemon/yellow in it) 42: two versions, one with cinch, one without, already coarser WWII denim stitch colour: yellow WWII: different versions, but generally higher rise, wider in the thigh and knee, a little tapered, dark denim relativel coarse (neepy and slubby to various degrees) denim stitch colour: yellow 46/47: Rise a little lower than the WWIIs Upper thight a little less than WWIIs, knee similar to WWIIs, hem wider than WWIIs, thus straighter, hardly any taper less dark denim, more blue relatively smoother denim stitch colour: orange and yellow 47 tab one sided (katamen) 50s- there seem to be three main model: 1951, 1953 and 1954 (and on) 1951- little lower rise compared with the 47, similar thigh, less knee and hem denim again a bit brighter similar denim to 47 stitching is mostly brown with some yellow tab both sided (ryomen) 1953- the year the type 2 jacket was introduced while the 51 became slimmer in the knee and hem than the 47, the 53s got wider than the 47s again in the knee and hem denim seems similar to 47 and 51 stitching is mostly brown with some yellow (rainbow stitching) with the arcs from the WH version in yellow shorter side stiches no more selvedge in the coin pocket narrower v-stitch tab both sided (ryomen) 1954- very similar to the 1953 according to the WH models the hem is a little wider switch to more mass production had the back middle belt loop move a bit to the left, offset --> easer to sew as the material/fabric is not as thick the WH model still has the leather patch, later switch to paper patch yarn colours like 53 model 1956- The FW model is even slimmer than the 1951 one, knee and hem Now while the FWs, TCB and WH 50s models I checked all had mainly brown stitching with some yellow (waist, arcs, ...) the 50s models of Cushman (lot 22177) and also Joe McCoy (905S) have mostly yellow stitching. Cushman Joe McCoy So where there models in the 50s with mostly brown stitching and others with mostly yellow? Or is this based on specific year models? Perhaps something is stated in the 501 book. Here are some helpful measurements and overview graphics from the Duke.