Dr_Heech

No unfortunately not. And now l have my teenage son living with me, so for him it's a magic laundry basket but for me it's more washing to organise and get dry ... So l have an non-magical laundry basket atm 🥲 (tiny violin playing in the background)

🤣 the magic laundry basket

Lvc 1937 at the bottom, Csf 1941 in the middle and FW42's at the top. Both the repro 37 and 42 models have the standard yoke set up, whereas the pair in the middle do not. The standard yoke set up is what we are used to seeing on 501's made from April 1942 up until the present day which sees the bottom panels overlap the top ones, like on the lvc 37's and FW42's shown. The non-standard yoke set up is the csf 1941 pair in the middle. It sees the top panels overlapping the lower ones, a feature which just about 99% of the denim pants manufacturers used in their jeans construction at the time, only levis waited until c.1940 to do it, then flipped it back c.April 1942. Hopefully cleared all that up now 🙃

Yes there were two different things happening, the yoke switch (as already described) And the switching of the left over right/right over left back panels. The yoke switch around has now been roughly estimated c.1940- August 1942. Whereas the back panels switch around several times between 1937 and 1942. I have a few images but they're on my defunct laptop unfortunately, of levis 501's made between 1937 and 1942 which show variation in the back panel set up. So in the examples you've shown of the FW models, the FW37 and the FW42's have both types of back panel set up you would expect to see within that time frame. It's one of those weird anomalies that l almost didn't want to accept as it was confusing the hell out me and l couldn't date it exactly 😁 Now l understand it is just a feature of that time frame with no real explanations as to why(?) Maybe they were just experimenting with things as there were a few short lived experiments that didn't stay long, for example - the understitched rear belt loop which was a feature on pairs made in and around 1935/36, when the '1922' 501 was replaced by the '1937' model. We still don't know why or what that was all about but there's plenty of speculation.

There doesn't seem to be any reasons why they switched from right over left panels, to left over right panels on the back of the top block, if that's what you're asking? They seem to switch backwards and forwards over the period 1937- 42, which is strange considering only one factory before 1943. The yoke, from underlapped to overlapped, and then back again, as l've just explained, changed in around 1940 and returned to normal in 1942. Nobody seems to know the reason for that change either.

Looking good @beautiful_FrEaK and not a puke stain in sight. Do you find the denim to be faster fading, than say the standard 47?

Found this pic on lg by accident, and of course had to share. Shame it was the only image. Vintage 501XX sz 32x33 made sometime between c.1940 until c.(April)1942 in Nos condition. Click on image twice for clarity but it's the reverse yoke model which came after '1937' buckleback 501, but before the 1942 buckleback 501(the worn pair in the post above). Copper riveted on the two horse patch and also on the pocket flasher (dated 1937) and the guarantee ticket. First deadstock pair I've ever seen and a thing of beauty, just wish there were more detailed shots of them.

Mine haven't touched water yet, too busy wearing WH 22's and CSF 41's when l can. Still wearing shorts here, all that looks to change weather-wise so maybe sooner rather than later? 🤔 😆

@Broark Maybe take some shots of them unravelled (no cuff) Tbh those cuffs look a little uneven (?) Are they double cuffed?

Or you could just wear and enjoy your current pairs of jeans, that's what l'm doing. Joy wearing, l highly recommend it! Unless when you said ' unnecessary purchases', you meant nappies? 🤔

I see it as more as engagement than a mere battle. #Women

For me as a judge, 37 wearers are instantly awarded 1 point 😃

Are you there in person? jk Congratulations @beautiful_FrEaK and family, hope all goes well.

I left Sufu about 13 years ago to migrate to db because of the clique that arose here 😅 Glad that the clique finally died out, and we've all now found a place that suits all our denim nerd needs and can be life long pals. Obviously only on the internet.

1942 Levis 501xx showing how beautiful the war denim is when faded, and the arcs look just like the pocket design on my FW1942's 😁 Pics via Berberjin

Bought this for my son. He wanted a sherpa levis jacket for a while, after being introduced to the type 3 as a boy, but had to have lower pockets/hand warmers. Got a nice clean example in a mid blue with some crocking on sleeves starting. Looks like 527 factory code (another EL Paso plant??) and manufactured in February 1988. Got it for a reasonable price but after postage and duties it felt like l'd bought it from a vintage shop, although it still came in under 100 quid which not bad l suppose. Anyway it fits me comfortably over a tee so there's always that option if he gets bored of it 😁

There's some corkers in there @buler - especially love that second photo down, l've seen it before but that looks so much like a Late XX/early 506XX - and the guy wearing the shield shirt next to him. Awesome image.

Corrected it for you 😆

Your guess is as good as mine mate. I always thought that leaving just the bottom button, or sometimes more than one button undone (leaving the top buttons done up) was a more modern styling thing. As the type one was designed to be paired with a pair of 501XX as a two piece overall, whether whilst working down the mine or as a horseback rider, l would assume it was less common. [Edit] just goes to show what l know if you look at @bulers post below. ..Me? With my 506XX repros l'm either button all the way up but leaving top button undone(too tight) or bottom two buttons done up only @shredwin_206 when l'm out for a casual walk

^This 😄 The good not so old days when making a comment without some weight behind it left you feeling vulnerable to the established pack of wolves. In some way, l think Denimbro helped raise the bar and in turn, made Sufu a better place to come back to, although the other forum let down everyone in the end. But here we are 'moving forward' (l hate that term) and maybe one day we'll all just be forced to migrate on over to r/rawdenim , whatever that is, and lump it. In the meantime, l think that we have a solid little community here.

Going back to the flannel pocket bags on og Levis, l saw these pics on lg and had to share. Another flannel colour combo alternative to the usual herringbone twill or the natural cotton pocket material.

The only pic of me wearing said silverstone jorts. Paired with lvc duck vest (nice big pockets for screws etc) whilst building my shed in 2018.

Not in this thread. If l get a chance after work, I'll explain it in the Denim blunders thread. Edit. Sent you a dm instead.

Yes @Broark l was clueless to the issue until it was too late. Glad l got away from all the complaints and other bullshit, l would never be a moderator again after that episode. Shame, as denimbro was a great buzz before all the hoo ha.

@beautiful_FrEaK actually l didn't discuss it, more of a mention. Was probably hoping for a discussion, as usual 😅