Dr_Heech

When l said new denim l meant for the 501xx at the time, so a change from the standard 1937 denim to the WW2 denim, even though the US weren't officially at war at the time. So another transitional model really. Edit- decided to change the wording in my original post for clarity.

Loved my Csf S501XX when l got it back in 2016 but it didn't have any wild wonky stitching at all apart from the pleat stitching maybe but l still thought it was quite subtle. The Denim and cotton stitching gave it that aura of the Real deal though and l'm glad l still have the 41 and 44 WW2 jeans. The FW1942's are actually based on pre-WW2 501's and they were a kind of test sample materials- wise (eg new denim and copper coated iron) but still pre-war in terms of quality construction not under any necessary constraints or pressures. Hopefully FW will convey this in their reproduction of them although l'm under little doubt as l've preordered both.

Thanks @Duke Mantee knew you'd have the intel .

What's the shrinkage like on the war denim? The one wash measurements provided by Hoosier are great but l wondered what the final shrinkage is, in other words, beyond the one wash state. For those who have FW war denim - What's your experience?

Nicked these pics from lg - looks like a late 1941/early 1942 model 501XX. The model just before the forthcoming Freewheelers 1942 repro (last cinch model 501xx before the simplified S501xx) Has the flipped yoke, left over right panels and a black buckle. Beautiful pale yellow almost white stitching after years of wash and wear.

I'm not a fanny pack fan but can appreciate the work that's gone into that @Duke Mantee. Good job

@shredwin_206 visiting Down under?

@Maynard Friedman l remembered!

Pics blatantly stolen from the interweb - Youth's 203 made in the early to mid 1920s.

@rodeo bill That flight suit up! mook is probably worth almost half what you're asking for all of those. Still have mine and it's a great resource. Also had that The Denim book in that last photo, not a bad purchase at the time although the pages seemed to easily fall out (?) Now sold it

There was a 'denim in movies' themed thread somewhere, actually there's probably more than one buried in the pages here. I think Badlands along with Hud and The Misfits are the best Old top denim movies (maybe throw in the Outsiders as a sub)

Thanks mate 😀

@yung_flynn One of my fav denim films. Yes those are 1950s Levis 501xx and many of the police officers in the film wear them too! There's a great moment where he shows us how to put a type 2 on in the coolest of ways, if l had more tech know-how l'd post it here.

The original pair that Sugarcane copied are featured in the Vintage denim thread (wasn't aware when l originally posted the pics but have since amended the post) and they indeed have a red tab.

Buy them, then focus on slimming down until they fit! Plus then you can sell me one of your csf bucklebacks as they will be too big 😅

Surprised that @silencejoe hasn't snapped these up yet 😁

Well l don't know for sure if these are based on "historical facts" but l would certainly take any info from them with a huge pinch of salt after hearing that the 'one piece sleeve' model of their s406xxx (506xx repro) that was based on a model made in 1946 only, is in fact just a production quirk and many 506XX models made between 1946 and 1950 (and probably pre 1946) have this feature. Tbh it's probably just their 'fun way' to distinguish between the range of product quality during WW2 for marketing purposes.

Good job @Double 0 Soul - we have a few of those insect houses on one of our courses but on a grander scale - Several pallets stacked high scale, so think insect tower blocks!

Great fades and details @MJF9

I think @beautiful_FrEaK needs to buy a fire proof vault as those vacuum bags will perish over the decades 🤔

Cheers mate!

You've got a lot of measuring to do @MJF9 😄 Nice tux, plenty of extra thread on that jacket too.

Just alter them as usual 😉

@ChemProfJSpencer Cone Mills made the denim for levis 501xx exclusively from 1922 onwards. The Cone denim used back then had a lot more character, such as your neppy feel with slubs and loom chatter. The denim changed three times, once in the mid 1950s (a lighter blue dye it seems), mid 70's (sulphur dye technique was briefly introduced) and again in 1984 when the selvedge disappeared and the denim became more fluffier/bulkier, but had pretty much lost all that character by then. (As for the denim being a flaw, l've not seen evidence to support it). The introduction of repros from the mid 1990s aimed to rectify that, trying to get denim made that replicated that character. And here we are 30 odd years later with an array of manufacturers and different denims doing just that! Hope that helps?

No mystery. The reason is that by 1980, for most vintage denim enthusiasts, the denim and details on vintage examples (which are then repro'd) are pretty much 'meh'. And the lvc version is a good example of why: bland and boring at best.