Dr_Heech

Thanks mate!

Remember someone asking about the pocket bags so thought l'd take a few pics of the inside whilst it's still light. They're made from lighter weight denim with M44 and #1479 stamped on them (barely visible now). (Interestingly @beautiful_FrEaK, my M41's are #1482 so only a few pairs between them). Hidden rivets are steel and rivets are plain copper. All the stitch is yellow apart from along the top of the coin pocket, which is a peach colour. Edit. For some reason, pics 2,3 & 4 are sideways here. Annoyingly not my doing.

Thought l'd get some shots of my newly hemmed M44's, thanks to @Mr Black at Soas. When l got them done some months ago, stupidly l forgot to keep the old cut off pieces for possible patching and left the shop without them. The new hems are pre wash but already showing some good roping. Will take some after wash pics and compare them to my freshly washed M41's at some point.

Our local shopping centre, which is tiny really even after the recent refurb, now boasts an Artisan butchers and an Artisan bakery, along with a new food court (hey whatever floats your boat) - Thing is, in the old precinct we had a regular butcher and a baker, they weren't given the added 'title'. So now wondering, as l dragged my arse through 6 years of art school many moons ago, if l am now an Artisan green keeper (or waller)? Thoughts...

Not today but yesterday, took a quick trip down Fareham way. Isle of Wight in the background. Wearing 12 year old F&F cap, £3 tee with Cushman double V over that and then my old Lvc/Aero 1940 civilian leather worn over it. Then Csf s409xxx WW2 jeans (with Duke belt) and old Skechers steel toe boots. Squinting cos l forgot my sunnies.

My son now wears my old FW47's ☺️ They were purchased from Duke's mate. They are TTS. I can still wear em but cannot get anything much in the pockets, so not functional. He looks good in them, with his vintage Nike sweat and Jordans. Now he's got his eye on my stormrider too.

Just nodding my head at certain posts and shaking my head at others as usual. Nothing really to say or add apart from (and l'm channeling my inner Sergent Murtagh/Danny Glover character here), that l'm getting too old for this shit. Have we got a tumbleweed emoji ?

Then in that case, l nominate @beautiful_FrEaK @Maynard Friedman and @Broark for all the above reasons 😛

Absolutely! Luckily the London contingent are coming to stay in the cotswolds. I'm sure one of the London lads will hook up with you?

Typical, lve had the last two Christmases off but have to work it this year, otherwise I would've loved to come and meet up for a couple.

I know that Sugarcane have stopped putting tabs on their jeans a while ago, but l was hoping for one on this pair as they are directly copied from a pair of S501XX. I can go with no arcs as they are a war model, but no tab might make it a deal breaker for me. Shame.

@silencejoe What have you got there then?

Agreed, so so good. l enjoy the coveting of items such as this, many thanks Mike. [Edit] @Duke Mantee is that a tab? No surely not. Trickery of modern technics perhaps?

Could do with seeing that beautiful BL 213 of yours again soon @Duke Mantee

Supposed to be the remnants of storm Lee today, according to the Met Office. Bit disappointing actually, came home to a garden covered in the usual debris, but not one buckleback jacket or a single pair of Lee riders to be seen.

@smoothsailor they are the infamous "wrong patch" 1901's from 2008. Basically lvc put out a 1901 with a patch from a pair of one pocket 1890 501's.

@beautiful_FrEaK still a good fit though. I've lost a bit of weight so lm swimming in mine ATM, not that l have been wearing them lately. In fact l think l can honestly say that lve worn jeans less than 5 times since May as it's so warm. But l suppose at least autumn is in the pipeline so can't be long before I get the chance!

Fixed that for you

So here is Mrs_Heech's late 60's/early 70's cord type 3 with a woven Slim fit label. It has copper coloured button tops but the bare metal is starting to show through dating this jacket to roughly 1968/1969. Pocket shapes are so so. Looks like the previous owner painted the adjuster buttons with white paint. It has 524 stamped on the button backs (with 52 stamped on the backs of the pocket buttons). And last up is her mid 60's 557xx which has older style copper topped button facings (like the boy's 70505) with domed centres and D & 17 stamped on the button backs. According to the Levis denim jackets bible, the 17/D factory only produced type 3's with shirt weight denim on pocket flap backings. This one has the same weight denim as the rest of the jacket on the pocket flap backs, so don't believe everything you read (not that most of us do). Last pics are pocket shape comparisons and jacket lengths. The 557 is a size smaller yet the pocket size is slightly longer but the length of the jacket is shorter Just goes to show how levis played with the lengths on jackets during the transitional period of 1966/67 despite continuing to produce the 70505 (prev 557xx) and 71205 (prev 558xx) well into the 1980's.

Recently the on/off button on my Samsung phone (from 2016) fell out(?) So l had to bite the bullet and get an upgrade and thought l'd test out the camera. So it's time for some type 3 loveliness l think. The reason being l was looking recently at the buttons on my son's early 70's 70505 cut off/vest, which was a present from @Flash a few years back, and noticed the enamel had worn off some of the buttons so much it started to show the bare metal underneath. This got me thinking about buttons on type 3 jackets so l decided to do some comparisons of what few vintage examples l have to hand, you know for fun. First up - this vest was a jacket made roughly between 1970 and 1973. It has 525 stamped on the buttons backs. The button front has a flat middle with those tiny dots around the company name, which was the last type of levis jacket button used until around 2002 when production moved abroad completely. The jacron patch is thinner cardstock than used on pre-1969 70505's and 557xx's. Both patches are the same size with same print but the card patch on the boy's jacket is rock hard whereas the vests patch is very pliable. The Boy's type 3 is an earlier one from c.1967/68, having mixed colour stitching and copper topped button facings with earlier domed centres. No dots around the Levi Strauss & Co name. It has 521 stamped on all the button backs.

Thanks @silencejoe Nice comparison but no way to tell whether an offset belt loop or not (the lighter pair are early 60's btw). On the front of the fly buttons, in the word 'levi strauss', is there a long/exaggerated tail on the bottom of the R in strauss or is there a short/regular tail on the bottom of the R in strauss? Apparently this is a way to determine whether or not the pair are from the earlier or latter half of the 50's.

@silencejoe Looks to have copper backed rivets on front pockets? Has it got any numbers or letters on backs of buttons? Any numbers on the back of hidden rivets? Can we get a pic (on the inside) of the 'side seam' (thick, sail-like stitch going down the front pockets/above selvedge/redline seam)? Thanks in advance

Shame @silencejoe but a nice vintage example nonetheless and look at that two tone yoke stitch (on the inside at least) and that beautiful, yet fully intact, pocket arc stitch. Plus, we need a full back top bloc pic, so we can see both pockets. Which model btw? 1953 or 1957 (or transitional)?

Excited to see the '43 jeans when they are finally ready.

Luckily for us that your beautiful type 2 averts one's gaze Original or repro?