Dr_Heech

Copilot is Skynet

@Jurassic Thanks for that, never seen it. Seems l was wrong, looking at the date of the movie (1943) and the new(ish) condition of the jacket, l'm assuming it is an early 40s 506xx (which would've had the larger, post 1935 buttons) although the small thin pleat stitch boxes and lack of tab indicate pre 1936. Could've had the tab removed? Could be the 1936 model, big button/no tab? Also found one or two images of the jeans he was wearing in the movie - typical 1937-42 era 501XX. Now l have the name l will have to look out for it 🙂

Should've put this in the 'Denim in film' thread but l don't know which film it's from unfortunately. I've seen plenty (if not all) of JW's black and white westerns from the 1930s and 40s but have never seen him in this shot and more importantly for me, never seen him wear a 506xx. The image was borrowed from Vintagebrotherhood on lg, simply titled 'mid 1930s'. The details in the pic plus the date adds weight to this jacket being the small button version (1927-35).

Is that on terrestrial telly Neal? I don't do subscription based stuff so here's hoping.. 🙂

Never tried it successfully with my phone. Did some of the Japanese language 'Researchers guide 501XX ' book but it was very laborious with my tablet thing. You'll have to talk me through it sometime 😁

Thanks Tilmann but unfortunately it's all in Japanese so will leave it. Let me know what it's like The Wrangler book is around 60 quid available via Instagram but I have enough information on that brand.

Cheers Neal. Yes there's a lovely vintage two-tone-esque sheen to it that only exposure to the sun can produce. Lining is quite bobbley but to be expected for a jacket that's 46+ years old. I wonder how long I'll wear this one before eventually selling it on?

Picked up this vintage USAF CWU 45P jacket last week for a song and from within the UK so no bullshit taxes or import duties, yay! Always curious of this type of jacket seen as it has been largely unchanged since it's inception in 1976. Think the CWU 45P took over from the MA1 as the standard cold weather cockpit jacket. This example is a 1978 contract that has the extra vents in the shoulders. Massive Scoville zipper down the front, probably the largest zipper l've ever seen on a jacket like this! Also Gripper/Scoville zipper on the arm pocket. It has seen service although no verified history - came with velcro patches and name tag removed before purchase., Got a few nicks here and there but knitted cuffs and waistband are solid. CW is an abbreviation of cold weather (jacket) but in my opinion, although it's similar to the MA-1 and the B-15 style insomuch as it's a waist high jacket with pockets that are almost under your arms, it's not as warm as its predecessors but still fine for a short walk down the café for a full english breakfast this time of year. Some pics ... FFS - Really had enough of sufu changing the orientation of my photos. Even when l try and pre-emptively rotate it makes no difference! Also l cannot delete this last image (of the second pic of the back of the jacket)^ despite numerous attempts. [EDIT] Thanks for sorting out that ^ last point @Broark

People here want entertainment as much as more denim, and you started this conga so feel free to update and tweak and so on. It's all good fun 😁

@Double 0 Soul l've not done any of those things and rarely use detergent when washing/soaking rinsing of jeans anyway. I have pair of raw 201's which fit fine raw but would instantly become Gloria vanderbilts if they ever touched warm water. This was what my post was alluding to

My turn, although bit boring and predictable as usual: Size down craze - No but have participated in vanity sizing once or twice. Slept in jeans - Yes in my youth, at festivals, camping etc Diors- No but remember the 19cm thread Fancy wallet - No Fancy engineer boots - No but wish l had Ocean wash - No Resolute thingy - No Never washing - No but will give it a go at some point Coffee wash - No Slubby or streaky - No Heavy ounce denimz - No Joined a contest - Yes RoyxCone Joined a tour - Twice APC - No Fancy washing detergent - No Worn denim while raw - see ^Never washing Paid for an expensive repair - Never ever paid for any repair thanks to the skills of Mrs_Heech Wallet jewelry - No Numerous pairs of very expensive boots - No Numerous pairs of identical jeans- Yes in the distant past but not recently Numerous fancy leather belts - No Native (American) Japanese jewelry - Lol Jacket suitable for the artic - Yes, once owned a C.H Masland N-3a Unreadable Japanese language magazines - Hell yeah Dressed like a sailor - No Dressed like a miner - No Dressed like a lumberjack - ..ish Mil repro - Yes Dressed like a railroad worker - No Dressed like an ice cream vendor - No Dressed like a P.o.W - No Stacked - No Starch - (and iron) but only the selvedge/train tracks when jeans are raw Freezer - No Fancy socks - No Handmade English shoes - No Whites Semi dress - No Discharge print - No Own less than 10% of the clothing you bought before joining - No, still own at least 10-20% Photo of jeans in bathtub - No Wore jeans wet - Yes £2000 leather jacket - No but did own a £650 Goodwear M422a Numerous repro denim jackets all from the same era - Hell yes Bought jeans nobody else owns - Yes Barf/Man stain/shit oneself in jeans - Can't remember Denim meet up - Never been to a meet up as such but have met several members here over the years for a pint or two (Paul T, Maynard and Flash) and one member when l was horrendously hungover (sorry Smoothsailor) ☺️ [Edit] just wanted to add that l have also more recently met Mr Black when he was working at Soas.

@Double 0 Soul you'll have to add 'Dressed as an ice cream vendor' to the list 😁 although that seems to be a more 2020's sufu thing. I think there was a PoW trend too, whether it was items with Prisoner of War abbreviations or those black and white/brown and white striped 20's/30's prisoner outfits. Also remember a trend where everything had an anchor on it, from watch caps to jackets, although could've dreamt that last one (?)

It's hammer time (can't touch this.)

@MJF9 The top pair of og 1942 501XX are the ones owned by the man from Foremost l think. The ones in the book are Larry's (Hellers Cafe) but there is a third pair, or was l believe. Look into recent pages in the vintage thread to see that unwashed pair of 36x36 so called 42's but with a silver buckle. They were obviously sold to someone a while ago and it is possible that they are no longer raw and are now in use but it was Foremost l think who sold that pair. As l've already mentioned the silver buckle is the only fly in the ointment as every other detail seems to match the 42's criteria. Whilst you are waiting for your desired hem thread, are you having any popular pocket design(s) added? I have chosen Larry's design but can't verify here. Send you a pm in the week when lm back home.

Thanks Neal and just plain ol' Doc will do, l'm fussy about my cheese related pronouns atm, sorta grates on me 🙂